Re: Establish demand

On Feb 27, 6:32 am, "Ian Parker" <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 27 Feb, 13:38, "Michael Turner" <l...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
The main threat would be in some> opponent who decides to deny LEO to everybody, himself included,
through such low-tech means as your "bags of sand." They'd have to
kick a lot of sand, though. Which would mean they were already an
existing space power themselves to a great extent, and thus with some
incentive to exercise restraint, to preserve the value of a high sunk
cost (launch capability) for which they had to economize elsewhere in
their defense budget.

I don't know that you would need that much sand. You see space debris
is very much self generating. I will agree that this opponant would
have to be a reasonabl space power, which is why I previously used the
word symmetric. Asymmetric militarization of space is possible.
Suppose a symmetic enemy had LEO denied to him by ASAT techniques. At
that point there would be a great incentive to have bags of sand.
After all there would be little to lose.

We may well be in a situation where the worlds major powers are
largely in agreement and where threats come from rogue states and
terrorist groups without major space launch capabilities. My only
point is that if this is the case the disposition of defense spending
would be different from what it is. This one just has not been thought
through.

Disabling satellites without leaving debis is a no go as defeat will
provide an incentive for the bags of sand.

- Ian Parker

You may be right, Ian, but I think I'll duck out of this debate with a
good excuse: it's not clear how it relates to the subject: "Establish
demand".

-michael turner

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