Re: Probability of successful prosecution of certain parties for slander

On May 12, 5:58 pm, Allen Thomson <thoms...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 10, 7:02 pm, Williamknowsbest <William.M...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So, why don't we do it? Why don't we take them up on this offer? If

someone can convince me that this would be beneficial, I would
support
prosecution against those who state categorically that these American
heroes are liars.

Well, first of all "prosecution" really doesn't enter into the
picture, because in modern US practice libel and slander aren't
crimes, they're torts. So the question is not of prosecution but of
suit.

While one may find it difficult to argue with the superficial point
you've injected related to the slight distinction in law between tort
and crime - one can certainly argue that your implication that one
cannot use prosecution to describe bringing suit because prosecution
is also a description of bringing criminal charges is just plain
dumb! And in the context of my discussion moot. You are being
pointless argumentative and fabricating out of whole cloth points that
have no bearing on the discussion. Stating things merely for effect
while ignoring the issue at hand.

http://www.metnews.com/articles/2004/zamo042004.htm
http://daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Tort_Crime/Tort_Crime.html

So, we see how you are here.


And one reason why "we" don't sue for the slander/libel would be that
if the members of the class "we" doesn't include the astronauts in
question (or perhaps members of their families or people who have
business connections with them) then "we" lack legal standing.

Your statement ignores the key question. And that is, what is required
to prosecute someone for libel? Only that the prosecution not be
malicious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_prosecution

Now, what does it take to prevail in a libel suit? Only to prove that
the accused have committed libel against the parties bringing the suit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel

In law, defamation is the communication of a statement that makes a
false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm
the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government
or nation.

Now, your stupid comment might be very much like the opening argument
of the accused, in an effort to get the prosecution behind them.
However, like your pointless distinction above and your foolish
conclusion that one cannot call a tort action prosecution, its stupid
at its core since it ignore the basics and constructs seemingly
important distinctions around trifles while it does so..

Fact is I individually and everyone of us as a group have suffered
greatly in many ways by the actions of those I would prosecute here.
..
Seehttp://www.lectlaw.com/def2/s064.htmfor what legal standing is.

Well thanks for the pointer. But it further marks you off as a
blithering idiot. I'm sorry to say.

Fact is, I am well aware of what standing is. Now, your great ego
doesn't allow you to consider the possibility that just because you
think I lack standing doesn't mean I don't know what standing is!
Because it is impossible in your microscopic little mind to think that
perhaps your conception of who has standing is skewed? limited?
WRONG! haha.. Well sir, you ARE wrong.

I can prove it by citing a counter-example you didnn't list.

What about an employee of a contractor who worked on Apollo and
collected pay for lining a moon-boot with thermal insulation. They
met the astronaut they worked for. Took his measurements. Did a
careful job. Took great pride in it too. Keeps a photo of the
astronaut in their den, tells all their friends about how they were
part of American history and the expansion of humanity. Proudly
cashed their paychecks. Now, that person has standing enough to
prosecute the bastards for libel who tell damnable lies about the work
they too great pride in. And there are 200,000 people like that out
there - and unlike you - I can imagine many more having just cause to
bring libel

These lies aren't just harming the astronauts and their families,they
are harming the people they worked for, all the people who were
contracted to get the job done, and everyone in America who took pride
and satisfaction in this achievement and had hopes to achieve far more
these past forty years.

Listening to piss ant know nothings like you who merely pretend to
knowledge yet have no capacity whatever to achieve anything with it is
a source of our problems as a nation and a people.

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