Re: NASA "LSAM" and where's sci.space.xx gone?

On 31 May, 05:29, jacob navia <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Fred J. McCall wrote:
Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:On 30 May, 17:41, Hop David <h...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> Ian Parker wrote:
:> > The criterion is can human manual dexterity (I am not talking here
:> > about general AI which is a much more complex matter) be completely
:> > reproduced by a robot? I think that anyone who says "no" should be
:> > prepared to justify that statement.
:>
:> Maybe it can. However such robotic hands don't presently exist.
:
:Would it be a such a difficult task to develop them? I am sure that
:they could be developed a lot faster (and cheaper) than a manned base
:on the Moon.
:

If they were that easy they'd already exist as medical prostheses.

But they could exist tomorrow if the money spent in building
huge rockets to take 4 people to the moon was spent in building
small robots that can repair/manipulate machines in the moon.

A descent manned moon programme could exist by 2015 if if the money
spent in building huge rockets were used more wisely.

A small rocket of the current generation of machines could be
used to send machines to work in the moon, explore the planet,
locate resources, and determine which areas are worth exploring
FIRST!!!

Just throwing money at a problem doesn't necessarily make the rockets
exist.

Can you build a robot to fix a car? Certainly not under AI, and
probably not under remote control.

So for the next NASA competition (after the Earth movers), I propose a
remote controlled robot that can (with a 2.5 second time delay) remove
an electric motor from a battery powered car, or the wheel from a
normal car, and bring this engine or wheel to a human for actual
repair. (You are allowed to modify the car to make the engine easier
to remove, as long as it still works fine - e.g ethernet connection
instead of multiple wiring links)

Instead of trying to do everything alone, the U.S. could
develop a plan like that with cooperation from all other
countries. Sending an outpost to the moon would be a small
undertaking if most nations agree to cooperate to do that.

Though ISS shows that the cost of cooperation can often be high.
European Defence projects often show this as well.

But that would need less wars, more respect, and many other
things that apparently the U.S. doesn't want right now.

********************* IMPORTANT *************************
Note that any solar flare would toast any humans walking around
unprotected in the moon. This is a show stopper that nobody
is considering seriously.
**********************IMPORTANT*************************

Humans won't walk about unprotected on the moon during solar flares.
In fact, with the kind of robots above, they'd hardly walk around at
all.

It is VITAL to build underground living space in the moon
BEFORE any humans go there so they have a base to cover
them in case of a solar flare and to protect them from the
deadly space radiation. Machines MUST be sent to build that
before anything else is done where humans are concerned and
we speak about staying PERMANENTLY in the moon.

Or machines should be sent to bury any hab modules we previously sent,
which is where the back-hoe diggers come in. Shifting 0.1m3 per
minute, that's 4000m3 per lunar day.




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