Re: 2015


<Willie.Mookie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sep 27, 11:39 pm, Joe Strout <j...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <aranders-E3AA10.22523927092...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Alan Anderson <arand...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Jonathan" <wr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Soon, the collective weight and intelligence of the masses
will decide on all matters of importance, and in real time.

That's a depressingly pessimistic prediction. "Collective
intelligence"
is amazingly low

Not always; it depends on how it's organized. See
<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385721706/> for example.

and "the masses" tend to consider celebrity and
entertainment to be important.

Well, true. Not sure what can be done about that.

Best,
- Joe

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First off I don't see where Johnathan has posted in reply to my
comments.
Second, your faith and allegience to the ideals this nation and most
nations were founded to support are woefully lacking
Third, your lack of faith is only exceeded by your lack of vision and
knowledge.

As to the discussion you are attempting to start in the face of my
suggestion, your conclusions are based on the asinine presumption that
what entertains people and engages their idle curiousity is the same
thing that is important to them and motivates them and directs their
efforts.

The fact is that wealth is spread more evenly than at any other time
in human history. That great amounts of liquid assets are in the
hands of millions of people. And these people all have common
political interests in the global marketplace.

This will inevitably lead to the next great development in human
history - the end of the nation state as we know them today. The end
of the right of governments to kill people, to steal from people and
to lie to people. This will bring about the end to many difficulties
that now seem intractable and will bring about an age of relative
peace stability and wealth aginst which this age will appear poor
indeed - in the more privileged of nations.


I agree completely. Market systems and democracies best mimic
a naturally evolving ecosystem...nature. My hobby is chaos
and complexity science, which is essentially a new form
of systems theory, but based on abstract Darwinian principles.

Democracies, markets and freedom spread like a healthy forest
alonside a freshly damaged ecosystem. Such natural forces
are relentess, pervasive and imaginative. It's only a matter
of time before the diseased nations of the world relent.

I mean.. I would bet everyone here believes in Darwin, democracy
and market systems. Just what few of you will accept is
that complexity science has shown all three are merely
subsets of a more general and universal tendency to
....self-organize.

The 'integral' so to speak of the complexity sciences is
the Complex Adaptive System, derived originally from
the study of random boolean networlks. A single abstract
model that explains nature, and in all of it's myriad forms.
From galaxies to emotions.

Complex Adaptive Systems - Webs of Delight
http://www.calresco.org/lucas/cas.htm

CALResCo Complexity Writings
http://www.calresco.org/themes.htm


And they all do the same thing, they relentlessly
attempt to increase order over time and with
Darwinian cleverness.


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