Re: Back to the moon? When?



Once again Prevaricating Parker removes all context.

Ian Parker <ianparker2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:
:I m looking at the Far East as a whole. My claim is level, or slightly
:ahead.
:

This is different from your immediately preceding claim and is still
wrong.

:
:It is difficult to be a long way ahead in a situation where
:there is awareness of what everyone else is doing.
:

Poppy***! If your preposterous claim above was true all products
from all sources would be the same. They aren't.

:
:The area where America and the West in general is probably weakest is
:in the field of reusability of software.
:

Bull***.

:
:Carnigie Mellon University
:has got a scale for reusability and disciplined design.
:

No, they don't. Once again you've read something in a field you know
nothing about and totally misunderstood it.

:
:More Indian
:companies are at levels 4 and 5 than US companies.
:

Cite your numbers. Don't count internal appraisals. List by size of
operations and size of efforts used in the evaluation.

:
:It has been put
:forward that Indian companies are scoring merely because they are
:cheap. They are cheap, but there is an underlying professionalism too.
:

No more so than lots of other places.

:
:This should be a cause for concern since it means that even if India
:does catch up with the US in terms of raw per capita GNP and wages,
:their software houses will still have an advantage.
:

Not so much. You assume that the fact that they have any amount of
professionalism at all somehow puts them 'ahead' of everyone else. It
doesn't.

And now Ian, as usual, starts to spin off into the sort of
irrelevancies that convince me that he is really just an experiment in
Artificial Stupidity.

:
:Why doesn't the US make digital cameras? The answer is that the
:Japanese are better at it.
:

If that's true why are the Japanese 'offshoring' their manufacture to
China, Malaysia, and Taiwan? It's all about costs and who currently
has market penetration.

:
:OK if you are a trading nation you will do
:some things better, and another country will do some things better. My
:claim that you would go to Japan if you wanted something miniaturized
:is valid though.
:

No it isn't. It's a preposterous stereotype that never was true.

And now the ASS (Artificial Stupidity System) spins off into totally
disconnected ramblings.

:
:What is required for manufacturing on the Moon in weight terms I mean?
:If you have furnaces your "seed weight" is limited by the need to
:conserve heat and probably works out at ~ 100 tons.
:

And you arrive at that number how, again? Pull it out your ass?
That's what I thought. Even your assumption that "the need to
conserve heat" causes a limiting factor is bull***.

:
:If on the other
:hand you can do your processing cold, with enzymes from artificial
:life you may find you require less than a kilogram.
:

And monkeys might fly out your ***, too, but it's the likelihood of
that 'may' that's important and, as usual, you skip right over that
important little bit.

:
:The question of resusable software is an interesting one. If you look
:at the Internet you will find that there is a lot of software around.
:

Yes, there is. And it's of varying quality.

:
:The ability to reuse it would mean that very little extra software
:needs to be written.
:

Assuming you never wanted to do anything new.

:
:Some AI investigators have talked about the
:ability to write in C.
:

What? That makes no sense at all.

:
:The fact of the matter though is that the
:imperative is an understanding of pre existant modules and the ability
:to string them together is a compatable chain.
:

No, the imperative is actually writing truly reusable software. Most
of it is not.

:
:(Manifold).
:

No.

:
:India seems
:particularly skilled at this.
:

Cite? Or is this just another ASS random claim?

:
:Let us look at population dynamics. China has a population of a
:billion, India about the same. Taiwan, Japan, Malasia etc. have
:smaller populations, but are part of the same economic grouping. The
:US has 300 million the EU about 600 million (The EU is expanding and
:taking on new members.
:

Ok, you can count. Handy skill, but hardly new or conducive to a
telling argument.

:
:Unless you are a racist you cannot but conclude that if every economy
:were organized efficiently, and increasingly they are, the odds are
:stacked up against the US.
:

Preposterous remark and a logical fallacy into the bargain.

:
:You say Spanish is an obsession of mine.
:

Only because it is.

:
:Let us look at these figures again. With Latin America the US would be
:of comperable strength to the leading Asian nations. If you are not
:prepared to learn Spanish you are confronted with 300 million against
:billion strong nations.
:

And everyone in Europe speaks every language in Europe? I don't think
so. They don't speak the same language all over India. They don't
speak the same language all over China.

The only conclusion is that once again the ASS has let his ignorance
overload his intellect (if any).

:
:They may not be wasting their energy on Apollo style expeditions which
:do not seem to have very much future. There is one other area I have
:not yet mentioned, biology.
:

Which, of course, you already mentioned earlier.

:
:The 1Kg seed will require some pretty
:advanced knowledge. The US is ensuring that bilogical excellence will
:not reside there.
:

Yet when you look at the research and product development in this
area, most of it seems to be here. Once again we've seen a
demonstration of posting by a Silly ASS.

:
:OK stem cells are irrelevant, in themselves, to
:artifical life. They are relevant though in terms of which countries
:establish themselves as centers of excellence.
:

Not so much. Once again you've read something superficial and
misunderstood it.


--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
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