Re: Back to the moon? When?



On Nov 8, 8:22 pm, "Erich Kohl" <ek...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi everyone,

First and foremost, let me just say that I do believe that the United
States was actually on the moon.

However, I am in a debate with someone who wants to know why it's
taking us (or anyone else for that matter) so long to go back there.
After all, if it was done once before with 1960's technology and
know-how, what's causing the delay in the expedition this time?

My theory is that it must have something to do with politics and
budget, combined with the fact that it might not be as high of a
priority as it once was when the U.S. was in an overt space race with
the Soviet Union.

Any enlightenment that can be offered will help, because I'm not sure
how else to steer my argument.


Japan and China are "back to the moon", and with far better technology
than anything within our NASA or DoD inventory. Perhaps we're much
like being Jesus Christ on a stick, go figure as to how we're being so
screwed by our own kind.

In addition to JAXA's Selene/KAGUYA mission doing exactly as planned
(pulling in those nifty 10 meter/pixel images and lots more to come),
it seems there's good old China that's acting extremely wise and fully
in charge of accomplishing their task of mapping and thus further
exploring the potential of our moon, with future intentions of their
robotically mining for those raw elements, including He3. Perhaps if
our moon is in any way hollow or with geode pockets of good enough
volume for accommodating a few brave humans, whereas China and quite
possibly their partnerships with Japan and India will seriously pay
off, while we're stuck with suppressing a few too many pissed off
Muslims, as well as our having to pay through the nose for the likes
of terrestrial fossil, synfuels and even yellowcake.

Chang'e 1 sends back moon picture
http://www.china.org.cn/english/China/232774.htm

China's first lunar probe Chang'e 1 sent back its first moon picture
on Tuesday as scheduled, the National Space Administration has said.

Experts will later adjust cameras on the satellite according to the
moon picture's quality to ensure following photos are clear and
accurate, the Shaanxi-based West China City Daily reported today.

The first moon photo will be made public next week, the report cited
the administration as saying.

Tests on the orbiter's equipment showed that it is working normally
and in good condition, the administration said.

The probe had orbited the moon 168 times by 2 pm yesterday, the
administration said.

More tests will be conducted in the next few days that will help
ensure data transmissions continue. The satellite has gone through a
number of tests since it entered the moon's orbit on November 7.
Chang'e 1's position was adjusted on Monday so its probing equipment
faced the moon.

The satellite, named after a mythical Chinese goddess who flew to the
moon, is supposed to stay 200 km above the moon's surface to carry out
scientific explorations for one year.

Cameras on the 2,350-kilogram satellite are expected to photograph
every inch of the moon's surface by mid January.

The orbiter is expected to analyze the chemical and mineral
composition of the lunar surface and send data back to the Earth so
that scientists can better understand the moon's environment, Li
Guoping, the administration's spokesman, said in earlier reports.

Chang'e 1 blasted off on a Long March 3A carrier rocket on October 24
from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan Province, marking
the first step of China's ambitious 10-year moon plan, which will lead
to a moon landing and launch of a moon rover around 2012.

In the third phase, scheduled for 2017, another rover will land on the
moon and return to earth with lunar soil and stone samples for
scientific research.

In 2003, China became only the third country in the world after the
United States and Russia to send a human into orbit.

(Shanghai Daily November 22, 2007)
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Perhaps China will have little if any perpetrated cold-war need of
such faith-based cloak and dagger distorting or excluding of the
truth, or otherwise holding back their new and improved science data
about our naked, physically dark, somewhat salty and unavoidably
reactive/anticathode moon that has such an electrostatic dusty surface
of unusual mascon considerations, as well as being continually
saturated in cosmic gamma and X-rays (especially by day when it's also
double IR roasting everything in sight), within such a nearly zero
atmospheric density means having insignificant if any attenuation from
all of that surrounding gauntlet of primary and secondary/recoil
radiation, not to mention the lack of moderating the velocity of
incoming physical debris that's arriving from all directions, that's
only speeding up prior to whatever near-miss or likely impact.

Too bad that our NASA team of supposed wizards without their original
semitic Third Reich team can't even manage to establish a station-
keeping platform of science instruments, as interactively halo orbited
within the moon's L1 (robotic Clarke Station), however it is most
likely that Japan, China or India should not have such difficulties.
Of course, the most educated of Americans don't even know of what or
where the moon's L1 is, much less having any clue as to it's
technological value as a space depot/gateway in addition to the
absolutely terrific science improvements on behalf of Earth and moon
planetology, and that's not to mention those improved detections,
trackings and best possible management of NEOs as potential Earth
killers.
--
Brad Guth
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