Re: The job of NASA

On 27 Nov, 22:25, Eric Chomko <pne.cho...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:06 pm, Fred J. McCall <fmcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:On 26 Nov, 15:13, Fred J. McCall <fmcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>
:> :
:> :What the blazes do you mean? It is a straightforward libel of a
:> :particularly nasty kind. That's what it is.
:> :
:>
:> Poor Ian. This has been explained to him several times and he still
:> remains stupidly and obstinately ignorant.
:>
:> Ian, there is a logical fallacy called 'complex question'. What it
:> amounts to is to ask a question that *assumes* that the answer to an
:> unasked question desired by the person engaging in the fallacy has
:> already been given and agreed to. The modern 'classical' complex
:> question is "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" It *assumes*
:> that the question "Do you beat your wife?" has already been asked and
:> answered in the affirmative.
:>
:> You engage in this fallacy constantly. Rand is merely posing a
:> similar sort of question to you in order to demonstrate what sort of
:> preposterous propositions can be put forward by such means. Your
:> reaction demonstrates a few things:
:>
:> 1) He's apparently accidentally struck a nerve, which would indicate
:> that his 'preposterous' remark is not perhaps so preposterous after
:> all.
:>
:> 2) You're a paranoid loon.
:>
:> 3) You're incredibly stupid.
:>
:> Is it starting to sink in yet?
:>
:> --
:> "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
:> only stupid."
:> -- Heinrich Heine
:
:I still don't know what the hell you are talking about.
:

Take a basic logic course, you stupid ***.

Let me help you get started:

http://onegoodmove.org/fallacy/cq.htm

:
:A libel is a
:libel. It is not a question.
:

Given some of the lying bull*** you've said about me over time,
you're just fortunate that the Code Duello is not still in effect.

A duel?! Freddy, you really are a piece of work.

I will repeat again. I should not generalize about all Americans.
However what I have been trying to ram into thick skulls - and they
are thich, is that the impression of America that is current thoughout
the world depends on how they behave towards the rest of the world.

The comments about pedastry are to me Abu Ghraib though and throgh. I
will again repeat. These people have lost the Iraq war and given a
negative opinion of America amoung 90% of Arabs, whereas before
opinion tended to be positive.

A war can only be fought with allies. Forwards defense against
terrorism is indeed a credible thought. But you need allies, you
cannot operate in the Middle East without. Getting back onto our
threads. Buzz Aldrin talking about the "Apollo fakes" said that there
should certainly be freedom of speech, but people should be mindful of
the effect they were having on young people.

I would like to ask Fred and Rand - both of them what effect he thinks
this thread is going to have on young people. Bullying is extremly
unpleasant and can destroy lives. I have never been to high school but
Rand seems to me to be a typical bully. I had thought that perhaps he
had got his information though a Middle East desk. What I meany about
the "age of consent" was that politicians stand up and talk about
"protecting young people" when it comes to sex. They are totally
indifferent to hell houses and bullying. Indeed many actually approve.
In American colleges there are societies with totally idiotic
initiation rites.

In space we need to move away from national programs. We need to have
international programs and attempt to cost them on a similar basis.
That is what I believe the main role of NASA should be.


- Ian Parker
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