Re: Cheap Access to Space

On Jan 14, 4:15 am, Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 14 Jan, 01:08, Willie.Moo...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Jan 11, 11:07 am, BradGuth <bradg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jan 10, 4:44 pm, Willie.Moo...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

More crazy talk in a vain attempt to alienate all rational people from
even trying to figure out what's being said. Do you ever leave your
mom's basement and you know, go out and get a meal at a restaurant?
Do you talk like that in public? If you do you GOTTA know that
people find it offensive scary and worse. You gotta know this. So,
you gotta known chilling effect it has on people even bothering to
read this topic. So, you KNOW you're a black propagandist, and likely
with all the other ratfuckers out there - take misplaced pride in the
shock you think you cause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratfucking

First off, there's nothing all that cheap about space travels,
especially if having to accommodate us frail humans. Besides, China
is already accomplishing CATS at not 10% the cost of anything NASA.

Even if Mook's LH2 and LO2 were made free for the taking, the R&D and
complex infrastructure on behalf of accomplishing those composite
rigid spaceships and/or shuttles (aka Skylon or whatever) is simply
for the upper most 0.1% of humanity that doesn't actually trickle its
wealth down worth ***, and much less sharing of any power.

The proof being yourself and of those you continually brown-nose.
Lord all-knowing Mook doesn't actually give a tinkers damn about the
lower 99.9% of humanity, as in never did and never will, much less do
you have honest intentions of ever salvaging any part of our badly
failing environment unless it has something to do with stuffing our
hard earned loot into your offshore bank accounts, as you could have
been delivering your H2 and/or LH2 in bulk and at a fair market price
as of a decade ago.

Of what has been technically doable for decades isn't happening
because of folks like yourself. So, you can't blame others outside of
your own mindset that believes your government and of its faith-based
puppeteers can do no wrong, especially if there's anything Jewish
involved.

As I've said before, that such clean and renewable energy that's
essentially unlimited should be made into all sorts of gas, fluid and
solid forms of stored energy, except that you ENRON and other big-
energy cartel folks have no honest intentions of ever allowing a spare/
surplus KW.hr worth of your energy to exist, and therefore your H2-->LH2 plus LOx is never going to become all that cost effective, or

even thus far available at any price.

- Brad Guth

You say so many things that are wrong its hard to know where to
start. Suffice to say that investment in R&D to lower the cost of
space access does bear results. The USA stopped spending to reduce
space access costs back in the 1960s when it was clear we would make
it to the moon ahead of the Russians. Why? Because lower cost access
to space means lower cost access to strategic missiles. We have to
get clear on this before any real progress can be made. Do we want to
control missile proliferation? Do we want low cost access to space?
At present we're supressing knowledge in the hopes of supressing
capabilities. We need to have a more direct approach to controlling
conflict, and more open approach to rocket engine and space vehicle
development.- Hide quoted text -

Not completely true. At about the time of Apollo there was a
divergence between missile technology and space technology. Space
technology is based on liquid fueled rockets. These have a higher
specific impulse than the solid fueled missiles but have second strike
capability.

If you have to launch a nuclear missile the last thing you want is to
have to pump in tons of cryogenic fuel. You just want to press the
firing pin and forget. If you are planning a nuclear attack you will
simply wipe out any prospective liquid fuelled retaliation on the
first strike. You will not have the time to fuel up and fire. In fact
these days with 2m CEPs a conventional first strike is perfectly
practicable.

The technology we are seeking to control is nuclear technology, not
missile technology. The main fear is that a nuclear weapon will be
smuggled into the US and assembled in a flat somewhere. There are
means, other than missiles of delivering nuclear weapons.

The main reason for the slowdown was not any fear of missile
technology but the simple fact that the objective was the Moon. Other
objectives were very much in the background.

- Ian Parker

That is also true on the USSR/Russian side of our mutually perpetrated
cold-war, whereas the moon itself was all or nothing. Too bad China
is going to beat us to actually having those rad-hard robotics walking
or somehow maneuvering upon that physically dark and electrostatic
dusty surface of our naked/anticathode moon that looks so gosh darn
bluish to the unfiltered camera...

Would you like to see another one of those official NASA/Apollo
unfiltered Kodak moments of our red, perfectly normal white and
otherwise extremely dark blue American flags, within a certain guano
island like foreground and background?

- Brad Guth
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