Re: Global wireless hotspot

On Jan 24, 2:09 pm, simberg.interglo...@xxxxxxxxx (Rand Simberg)
wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:51:43 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

Mook doesn't know what he's talking about.- Hide quoted text -

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Hold on there Sparky.  Got any substance behind that statement?

You have no substance behind yours.  Johnson ended the Saturn program,
not Nixon.  Your ignorant armchair psychoanalysis of his Nixon's
motives is nonsense.- Hide quoted text -

You equally igorant bin al kalb. The last flight of the Saturn was
Skylab in 1973 that was well after Johnston's time.

The program had been canceled, and production had ended years before,
under the Johnson administration.  That is historical fact.

Idiot.

It is not idiotic to realize that improved technology requires that
you invest in its improvement. Nor is it idiotic to belive that a
sitting President had something to do with programs and projects that
were underway during his presidency. Even so, budgets are proposed
and authorized up to two years prior to them being carried out. So
both Nixon and LBJ had a hand in the death of Saturn. Though to say
LBJ killed Saturn is an over-statement. LBJ did cut back on JFKs
grand vision of space exploration. Kennedy's vision of US leadership
and endeavour in space was reduced to a moon landing unker Johnson,
and reduced further to man in space under Nixon. With the explosion
of the Challenger under Reagan, space travel for the US seems poised
to become space research along the lines of the robot probes on Mars
without any fundamental improvements in the cost of space launch.

Prior to 1963 the US invested heavily in improving space launch
capability by focusing single-mindedly on the critical technical
components that positively effected the key measure of rocket
performance; reducing the cost of momentum.

LBJ began the cut back on investment in rocket technology immediately
following the assasination of Kennedy in November 1963. On December
21,1963 less than a month after the assasination LBJ met with McNamara
and and Glen Seaborg at the White House cutting budgets for nuclear
space propulsion requests for 1965..

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/lbj/a.htm

Of the total spent on Project Apollo $9.3 billion was spent on
development of the Saturn launch vehicle. Further improvements in our
space launch capacity by building larger more capable launchers were
not undertaken after 1964. In 1966 LBJ reduced the number of Saturn
launch vehicles requested for NASA's 1968 budget. This didn't kill the
program, it merely reduced the number of Saturn's ordered by NASA and
the scope of post landing exploration..

LBJ did not institute research to develop new space launch
capabilities. LBJ did however, set the stage for the next President,
which turned out to be Nixon, to make a decision to do what he thought
best, which Nixon did with his Spast Task Group headed up by Agnew.
Nixon asked the agency what they'd like to do. They predictably gave
him a laundry list of things they'd like to do. He said, fine, pick
one. They picked the Space Shuttle as the first step in a series of
components to build a long-term space capability. In the end with
pressure from the President, they decided to scrap Saturn and its
hardware because Nixon didn't want Kennedy's space legacy to be basis
of our future in space. This from private recordings, and memos from
the White House at that time.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Apollomon/Apollo.html
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4219/Chapter12.html

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