Re: Space Leaders Work To Replace Lunar Base With Manned Asteroid Missions



On Jan 27, 9:38 am, Einar <eina...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:39 am, Alex Terrell <alexterr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On 19 Jan, 03:46, dumpst...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

See:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/ASTER01188.x....

A lunar base is a good goal. Missions to Near Earth Asteroids with a
view to bringing significant material back to High Earth Orbit is also
a good goal.

The goal is not the problem - its the way NASA is going about the
goal.

Do any of the candidates understand that? Is any politician prepared
to kick NASA out of the Earth launch business?

Otherwise, some Democrat President will say: "Scrap the lunar program,
lets have an asteroid program. NASA, go and design some smaller
rockets".

Eight years later, some Republican President will say: "Scrap the
asteroid program. Lets have a lunar program. NASA, go and design some
bigger rockets, like Ares I and V".

Could some Democrat President say: "Put a base on the moon by 2018,
but your not allowed to develop a new launcher"? and "if you can't do
that, I'll make Mr Simberg the head of NASA":)

Humans will have to establish somewhere off Earth a base of
operations, if theyr operations in space are ever to grow in scale. It
´s to much of a nuisance to have only a single plase to return to,
i.e. the Earth.

Now, if on the contrary a base of operations were to be established on
the Moon, then the Moon could serve humanity as an unbrakable space
station. The much smaller gravity of the Moon makes launching from it
´s surface much easier. Crews returning from operations ellsewhere in
space can return to the Moonbase. The Moonbase can be dug underground,
which is the most effective means in making it safe from radiation and
other space hasards.

Naturally, eventually crews will return to Earth. But as an off-Earth
base of operations the Moon would be absolutelly brilliant. If
servicing centers for spacecraft would be plased there, instead on
Earth. The gravity is so small that lineral accelerators could serve
to launch objects from it´s surface. Alternativelly, a teather could
be built which would only be a fraction of the size a similar one for
Earth would need to be, which could pluck objects from the Moon
surface directly into orbit. Naturally, untill then rocket launches
from the Moon surface also are a lot cheaper than ones from the
surface of the Earth.

Einar- Hide quoted text -

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Who's framing the exploration here? There's absolutely nothing
prospective about an asteroid mining mission, or moon base, or
even mars "playground" unless the dominionists step aside and
let the free markets reign.

IMO that's REAL freedom. "Dominionism" is for anyone who,
trapped by the insanity of micromanaging the well oiled
"machine of market sellouts" to anything NOT based on a
culture of their humanist religion, in order to push an agenda
that is entirely contradictory, to anything that is funda-
mentally directed at creating new promise markets.

Cheaper earth-to-orbit technology is the key for establishing
those new promise markets. Let's be quite clear here: If the
world must enter into a system of capitalism that must con-
tinually reorganize globally and reinvent itself globally in
order to please the consumer at every local level worldwide,
and this type of information society must depend almost
"totally" (remote internet and mass media access are still
locally-infrastructure dependent) on the local level of in-
frastructure that each society is able to produce for its own,
then the more advanced societies are also the most suc-
cessful propogators of the capitalist lifestyle, while the least
successful societies are more "consumer" oriented.

Earth-to-orbit technology offers greater "propogation power"
to all societies, societies that are in the process of mod-
ernizing their own infrastructures at the local level, who
have become, or are in the process of becoming, more
"upwardly mobile" w.r.t. expanding their own frontiers into
earth orbit and beyond.

Easier and cheaper access to this technology will unlock new
promise market potential and new job market potential, in
order to create a space-based infrastructure, where there
would seem to be *no end in sight* for economic and market
growth. The only thing that seems to be preventing pioneers
from exploring are the *horses* that are supposed to be taking
them to the edge of the wilderness. The "herd" needs to get
a lot more restless with the dominionists who seek to endlessly
control and/or monitor the earth-to-orbit markets, as "keepers
of the herd" so that the real "shepherd" can lead us beyond
the gate.

American
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