Re: forests on orbit

On Feb 15, 1:17 pm, Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 15 Feb, 20:40, Willie.Moo...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Ian wants to build seamless models from camera and other imput and
have robots run through pre-programmed routines that humans indicate
work with maybe a little goal building against the model. It is a
workable vision - and as a matter of fact what I envision things to be
like. It will still take something on the order of one or two robots
per worker and real-time feedback. He doesn't get what everyone has
gotten in the field since 1980s. Playing your model like a chess game
to get a plan of action and then carrying out your plan of action -
works only in the most benign of environments - and then, only in the
most forgiving of procedures. It can work, and will work - but you'll
still need humans on site for any real productivity measured in the
conventional sense. True autonomy will take something more -
something we don't even know how to think about today. This
conversation has nothing whatever to do with the madness you keep
repeating over and over and over again.

One thing that I forgot to say. A robot will have a library of tasks.
Cleaning the loo is a task, making the bed is a task. Cleaning the loo
and making the bed is a library. A jig can only do one thing so a jig
can only perform a task. A robot can perform a library of tasks.

In fact having a library may not be all that different from the way we
learn to do things. When we have a large library of tasks we can start
to string tasks together. Let us now consider assembling a flatpack.
To do this you need to define a series of tasks that have to be
performed.

The claim I am making (in effect) is that for all space tasks all we
need is a library function, we don't really need AI in any true sense.
If we are on asteroids we need to have a string of tasks that lasts
30min to 1hr.

- Ian Parker

That's all true, and it should become the norm of using robotics from
here on out.

A Pu238 powered robot should perform rather nicely for a decade, and
still be extremely usable even if its primary mobility is warn out or
otherwise terminated.
.. - Brad Guth
.

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