Re: Opening the High Frontier of Space

On 23 Feb, 23:02, Fred J. McCall <fmcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:On 22 Feb, 14:18, Fred J. McCall <fmcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>
:> :On 17 Feb, 15:24, Fred J. McCall <fmcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :> Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :>
:> :> :
:> :> :If asteroids became an economic source of
:> :> :platinoids to take an example, there would be no question about
:> :> :political cuts. The whole thing would be self sustaining with pure
:> :> :capitalism.
:> :> :
:> :>
:> :> Nothing like a tautological statement.  What's funny is that he
:> :> doesn't even realize he's doing it.
:> :>
:> :> If cows could fly, we'd all carry umbrellas when we went outside.
:> :>
:> :
:> :It is indeed tautological, but it is still worth pointing out.
:> :
:>
:> Not really, no.  Boiled down to its essence, what you've said is "If I
:> find gold in my back yard it's a gold mine".
:>
:> Meaningless noise.
:>
:> --
:> "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
:>  territory."
:>                                       --G. Behn
:
:What I have said is you need Gold, Platinum or something which would
:make a profit for private enterprise to be interested.
:

No, that's not what you said at all.

:
:You get private
:space by demonstrating there is money to be made, not simly by pouring
:in massive government subsisies.
:
:Ceres Platinum might just work. It is at least worth debating. You
:need a requirement for Pt. You need electric cars.
:

Yes, Ceres platinum might just work IF there is platinum and Ceres and
IF the price for platinum is enough to make going there, getting it,
and bringing it back profitable.

In other words, it will be profitable if it is profitable.

See what I mean?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

You are right when you say it depends on :-

1) The price of Platinum.
2) Whether Ceres contains Platinum.

On "1" I feel that we have not fully worked out the consequences of a
"green" world. We have to look at 9 billion people driving electric
cars. Each fuel cell has a requirement for precious metal. Is there
enough to go round?

Now if you have a Capitalist system what is the consequence of not
being enough to go round - the price goes up. I feel that the
celebrities who go round in hybrid cars for example have little idea
about how the technology would have to be scaled up. Masdar (Arabic
for source and spelled without the vowels) aims to construct a city of
50,000 people in a carbon neutral way. 50,000 is more than a few
celebrities, and the Gulf is bathed in sunlight all the year round. I
tend to feel a lot of greenery is poorly thought out.

On "2" does Ceres contain platinum. I think it is fairly clear that it
does. Whether there is any differentiation of materials or not, I
don't know. If there is the core will be particularly rich. We do not
in fact know very much about Ceres. We don't know how it is made up,
what is needed is a mission to land geophones at various points on the
surface, and then to deliberately crash a few smart pebbles onto the
surface. This would give us a map of the interior. There is ice
present, there is rock present. Is it a layer of ice and a rocky/
metallic core, or is it a mixture all the way to the centre.

As I said at first it is Hillary not Barack who is suffering. This
leads me to the conclusion that no one really cares, it is the economy
followed by Iraq. No one seems to really care. This of course implies
that any future ventures must either be low cost or commercial.

Ian Parker
.

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