Re: Replicators

On Jul 6, 4:43 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 6, 11:57 am, Willie.Moo...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

These two scenarios are not either/or - but are described to denote
the range of possibilities open to us.  We are near to both -
paradoxically enough - it all depends on where we intend to go over
the next 30 years.  We are travelling near a cliff in the dark, and we
will undergo massive change in very short time frames.  That change
can either be positive or negative again depending on our intent as a
species.

I 100% agree, that we and others have to seriously piss and get off
that pot before that nighttime cloaked cliff takes us all by surprise.

We clearly do not have the time nor the surplus in resources to fool
around with the sorts of off-world agendas that can't deliver their
goods in a timely and affordable manner.

Terrestrial energy of mostly proven renewable alternatives, including
your PV-->H2 and your improved coal gasification-->synfuel, along with
a good many failsafe thorium reactors is way the hell and gone past
due, as well as our having an extensive and robust national energy
grid that is absolutely essential.  Instead, we are doing a real bang
up job of pissing off Muslims as we inflate the cost of most
everything under the sun.  Go figure.

Silly us two crazy guys for caring about the future of humanity and
that of salvaging our frail environment.

-       Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Raising the temperature of reactors decreases their cost. High temp
nuclear reactors have been a non-starter for 50 years - despite this
fact. This should be examined, along with a detailed examination of
Three Mile Island accident at the precise time Jimmy Carter proposed
doing something important to end our reliance on energy. The
solutions were there - they were not implemented.

Check it out;

President Carter calls for a new energy conservation program that
includes limiting oil imports, reducing oil use by utilities, fuel
rationing for motorists and the study of other forms of fuel generated
using high temperature nuclear reactors.

This was patented in 1977

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4021298.html

Which would make liquid fuels for about $0.05 per gallon at that time.

then,

The China Syndrome is a 1979 thriller film which tells the story of a
reporter and cameraman who discover safety coverups at a nuclear power
plant. It stars Jane Fonda, Jack Lemmon, Michael Douglas, Scott Brady,
James Hampton, Peter Donat, Richard Herd, and Wilford Brimley.

then,

A major accident at the Three Mile Island nuclear plant near
Middletown, Pennsylvania. At 4:00 a.m. a series of human and
mechanical failures nearly triggered a nuclear disaster. By 8:00 a.m.,
after cooling water was lost and temperatures soared above 5,000
degrees, the top portion of the reactor's 150-ton core collapsed and
melted. Contaminated coolant water escaped into a nearby building,
releasing radioactive gasses, leading as many as 200,000 people to
flee the region.

then,

The jury rendered its verdict of US $505,000 in damages and US
$10,000,000 in punitive damages.


Not reported generally;

On appeal, the judgment was reduced to US $5,000. In 1984,

It was all a put up job - to block this from happening, to preserve
the value of oil in the ground for the oil companies;

"Our children will enjoy in their homes electrical energy too cheap to
meter," he declared. ... "It is not too much to expect that our
children will know of great periodic regional famines in the world
only as matters of history, will travel effortlessly over the seas and
under them and through the air with a minimum of danger and at great
speeds, and will experience a lifespan far longer than ours, as
disease yields and man comes to understand what causes him to age."

Lewis L. Strauss, Director AEC
Speech to the National Association of Science Writers, New York
City, September 16th, 1954
[New York Times, September 17, 1954]
.

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