Re: Super-heavy lift reusable launcher

On Aug 10, 10:12 am, "Martha Adams" <mh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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In terms of size, here's an interesting chart

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3f2.html

The engines I've talking about would have a bell diameter that would
neatly cover the city bus and would be about as tall as the Millenium
Falcon.  They would attach to a structure about the size of the Eiffel
Tower.

The payload could easily loft three fully loaded Saturn Vs into an
escape trajectory at the same time - not that you would actually do
that.

Stage layout and operation is very similar to this vehicle

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/rombus.htm

but larger..

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Well, well, well.  There is another of those wonderfully
future oriented things "we" discarded in the late '60's
and in the '70's, so as to free up money for that war in
Vietnam.  The effect of choices then upon the present
and future now, is plain to see.  ...Will this list ever
end?  ??

Titeotwawki -- mha  [sci.space.policy 2008 Aug 10]- Hide quoted text -

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Ran across this this morning in my research - we could have saved
$200 billion and 50,000 American lives. Spending $50 billion on
space over this period, instead of $20 billion - would have opened the
interplanetary frontier to us and transformed the world, both
politically and materially, and the US would have been the leading
force in this bold new frontier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG7jjF6xuKM&feature=related

America wasn't really committed to the war, until the Gulf of Tonkin
attacks - which some think were a put up job - to stir up support for
the war - in August 1964.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbJLwk-bJaA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0F0YF6h7o&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident

South Vietnamese President Diem when he lost support of his people -
which JFK referred to in his CBS interview in September 1963 - with
Walter Conkrite - JFK authorized the assasination the following month,
which occured on November 2, 1963.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeNv_62v6WQ&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngo_Dinh_Diem#Coup_and_assassination

LBJ was so matter of fact in his telephone conversation it does make
you wonder about the Kennedy assasinations. I want to be clear about
the dates of the assasination of Diem, because the video on You Tube
makes it seem like LBJ was behind that assasination. He wasn't. JFK
was. So, by pointing to this video, I don't want to say I buy into
the BS the maker of the video is putting out.

Yet, these are people who will stick at nothing to gain and maintain
and expand their power - despite their carefully crafted public
image. That's why they HAVE power. I think oft-times the American
people - all people - get lost in the fray - which is too damned bad -
and is the sort of common mode failure I'm talking about constantly.
True leadership seeks power certainly, but also sees that power as a
responsibility to look beyond self - which marks off poor leaders from
great ones.

Kennedy was no god certainly - yet, I do think he had a different sort
of vision than that promoted by the powers that be in the State
Department and elsewhere by folks responsible for charting our growth
as a nation - and that scared people. Did it scare them enough to
kill JFK? We don't know that - no one does really. But LBJ's matter
of factness about an assasination he didn't authorize - does make you
wonder. We certainly have the skill sets in government to do it.

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