Re: Why We Haven't Been to Mars Yet

Eric you have written a lot. There is one thing you have failed to
mention. Paperclip, Vril Aircraft, Aldebaran, FTL, Deutsche Physik.

You claim that the CIA grew out of OSS. This is only partly true.
There was also a heavy influx of ex Nazis led by Reinhold Gehler.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/story41.html descrives the
setting up of links.

The claims of vril and the Black Sun Organization are given here

There were indeed VTOL flying disc aircraft produced by the Nazis at
the end of WW2. A compendium is given in the reference

http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/
One you get beyond the glam pusses and Nazi propaganda there are some
very interesting articles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piecraft/Jenseitsflugmaschine From
Wikipaedia

http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/The%20Vril%20Discs.htm Aldebaron
(khayyid?)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ufo_aleman/esp_ufoaleman_6.htm
2000+km/h endurance 5½ hr was absolutely absurd.

"Deutsche Betrug" I think accurately describes these aircraft. It
should be pointed out that no reputable physicist was ever consulted
over paperclip or antigravity. We can reflect on the total absurdity
of AG by noting that LIGO is only 2000km from Area 51. Any antigravity
and the mirrors would have been wrenched off their fiberglass
supports.

ANTIGRAVITY RESEARCH

Let us first take a look at what GTR says about Gravity. Gravity
results from a curvature in space/time. To influence gravity, to build
wormholes and warp drives you need negative mass + stupendous forces.
It is something that only a really advanced (Type 3) civilization
could possibly contemplate. Even then negative mass would most
probable (I said 99.9999% certain) lead to Inflation rather than to
anything else. There are time paradoxes attached to FTL travel by any
means.

Yet despite denials antigravity research is still going on.

http://www.slate.com/id/2072733/
http://www.padrak.com/agn/
http://www.janes.com/aerospace/civil/news/jdw/jdw020729_1_n.shtml

I feel I should point out here that Jane's is a very respected source.
The thing that I can't understand is what theories they are basing
their work on.

Of course nothing has ever been produced. Did anyone really think it
would. There is another theory on McCarthy.

Antigravity and all the nonsense associated with it should have
stopped there and then. The CIA did however have a number of tricks up
its sleeve.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/kbank/profiles/mccarthy/


McCarty beat his opponent basically by smearing him. He committed
suicide in 1953. Now when McCarthy became Senator for Wisconsin it
should have been obvious to anyone that Antigravity and Aldebaran was
going nowhere fast. However lies, smears and fear gave it a new lease
of life. Later on Roswell, Area 51 and antigravity started to have a
momentum of its own. The basic reason why Relativity is always under
attack is that there are still black projects that are squandering
money. As I said the classic ODESSA stock in trade of lies and smears
set up the environment in which money could be siphoned off in this
way.

If Congress were to believe 100% in Relativity they would in all
probability demand an end to such funding. The conspiracy theorists
talk about the government knowing more than it is letting on, they
talk about cover ups, alien autopsies etc. etc. The basic cover up is
that of a gigantic fraud fuelled by lies, smears, fear and
disinformation in general.

You have to hand it to ODESSA, they strung Hitler along, they got into
the country they vowed to destroy with a series of lies and then
attempted to subvert it. There were, as I think I have said, always
more Nazis in the US than Communists. McCarthy never mentioned them
once. This is why I think he was one of them.

I feel you should also look at the postings in sci.physics and
sci.physics.relativity an "Why Einstein was wrong" Einstein was a Jew
to boot and quite a proportion of the contrbuters are anti Semitic.

Indeed Intelligence Services are unelected governments. The ISI in
Pakistan is an unofficial Fascist government. Our newspapers (in
Britain and presumably America) talk about the failure of Pakistani
politicians. Democratic politics has NOT failed in Pakistan. What
Pakistan is is a Fascist country ruled by the ISI, which politicians
democratic or otherwise cannot control. This is the reality. The CIA
BTW were instrumental in setting it up, as they were also instrumental
in putting Saddam Hussein into power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein

Saddam Hussein was a great guy until he had the temerity to invade
Kuwait. Apologists for the present war say he had to be removed.
Bollocks, the best way to removre him was not to have had him
installed in the first place.

The Cia has also hidden its activities from Democratic politicians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

These next two references show the liks that Gamal Nasser had with
ODESSA.

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/issue51/articles/51_08.pdf
http://www.jewukr.org/observer/eo2003/page_show_en.php?id=233



- Ian Parker
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