Re: Modest Proposal - Common Interplanetary Booster



Willie.Moo...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:09�am, BradGuth <bradg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 4, 5:41 pm, Willie.Moo...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:





Silicon solar cells are 22% efficient (I'm thinking now of Swanson's
Sunpower back junction cells) at most, and in space solar energy has a
density of 0.137 watts per sq cm and produces 0.03 watts electrical
per cm2, a dichroic mirror reflects away all wavelengths longer than
bandgap energy, with the cell radiating away 0.068 watts per sq cm as
heat.

� 0.068 W/cm2 = 5.67e-12 * T^4 = 331K

That's about 58C ... 136F which is warm, but operable. �Cutting off
shorter wavelengths cools temps further, but at a cost of cutting
power output.

Now, consider that solar cell thicknesses can be as little at 275 um
thick - massing 64 milligrams per cm2.

Using the 0.03 watts/electrical per cm2 this is 469 kW/tonne.

Now there are added things, like the film mentioned, foils to conduct
electricity, mounts structure etc., etc., etc., - but the solar cells
can be thinned by chemical and mechanical polishing - and so forth -
this is a good estimate of what's possible.

Now consider a bandgap matched laser illuminating the solar panel at
6.75 watts/cm2 being converte with 99% efficiency. �With a optical
bandpass filter that admits only the laser wavelength, the same 0.068
W/cm2 is radiated away, so the same operating temperature. �The same
64 milligrams per cm2 - but now there's a whopping 6.68 watts/cm2 of
electrical power!!! � �That's 104.4 MW/tonne

A resistojet rocket with 1,000 sec Isp requires 44.5 MW/tonne thrust
A plasma arc rocket with 2,000 sec Isp requires 89.0 MW/tonne thrust.
An ion rocket with 5,000 sec Isp requires 222.5 MW/tonne thrust.

Now consider that in order to create an ionized stream you need to
make a plasma, and to make a plasma you need to make a hot gas.

Consider that with 104.4 MW/tonne you and create a laser electric
rocket that has three modes of operation;

A resistojet mode that heats cryogenic hydrogen to high temperatures
and produces 2.34 thrust to weight.

A plasma arc mode that heats a high temperature gas and produces 1.17
thrust to weight.

An ion rocket that takes a plasma and accelerates it and produces 0.47
thrust to weight.

A chemical rocket has a 70:1 thrust to weight typically, and to
produce 1.3 gees at lift off it comprises 1.85% total lift off
weight. �With a 8% structural fraction - the engine is 25% of the
empty vehicle weight.

Limiting our engine mass to 35% of the total vehicle weight - we have
the following gee forces possible with this improved system;

� �resistojet mode - 0.819 gees - sufficient for an upper stage during
ascent.
� �plasmajet mode - 0.409 gees - sufficient for an upper stage late
ascent
� �ion mode -0.164 gees - again very late upper stage and into orbit.

With 1/6th gee you can almost do a lunar landing at 5,000 sec Isp.
Which is pretty amazing. �Transfer times aren't going to be a problem
with this system.

Modifying the central stage with this sort of system means deploying a
wing - how large does the wing have to be? � Well if the stage mass is
9.7 million pounds and gee force is 0.819 - then we have 3608 metric
tons of thrust

That's 160.5 GW.

This is a little less than the 220 GW powersat I've spoken of
elsewhere.

At 6.68 watts/cm2 - 66.8 kW/m2 - 66.8 GW/km2 - A square on each side
1.1 km!!

Quite a sizeable wing!

and not doable.

Increasing intensities 1 million times reduces wing sizes to 1 meter
area - which is far more reasonable size. �The problem now is
temperature.

For the laser, 1,000,000x is possible, and for the PV too if it can be
kept cool. � Another advantage is that the mass is reuced by a factor
of 1,000,000 - 104.4 TW/tonne so, 160.5 GW engine has a power plant
that masses only 1.53 kg!!!!

The power plant is now way way down there - and we can reduce engine
size to that of a chemical engine, and launch from the surface!! � In
fact increasing the power levels to 802.5 GW - increases the mass of
the power plant to only 7.65 kg.

The problem is heating the PV cell.

One way to do that is to pass the propellant through the PV wing - to
keep it cool.

But, when we do that some argue we are making the PV a heat exchanger,
and we might as well do that directly. because the first two methods,
the resistojet and arcjet, can be done by DIRECT LASER ACTION.

So, we can see that going 1 million times the intensity above - which
is perfectly doable - provides a means to reduce the wings to meter in
size this way and up our thrust to weight while increasing thrust and
power levels and whatnot.

The ion rocket can also be done this way, using the cooling action of
the propellant moving through the PV wing to keep it cool during
operation, and then use the tremendous electrical output to operate
really intense arcjet and ion rocket - using laser action itself to do
direct heating - with maybe some resistojet assistance.

At this point we dispense with stages and turn EACH of our launch
elements into super massive cruisers.

With a 50 km/sec exhaust velocity launched with a 1.2 TW beam from the
surface of Earth - we have to increase our thrust to produce 1.3 gees
at lift off - and now our 9.7 million pound vehicle requires only 2.4
million pounds of propellant, and 1.3 million pounds of structure -
providing a lift capacity of 6.0 million pounds to GEO and return.
Lifting 5 million pounds to the moon and returning it. �Lifting 5
million to Mars and returning.

ALL WITH THE SAME AIRFRAME AND AVIONICS

Merely replacing the Aerospike engine, with a laser/thermoelectric
engine.

The 'power pads' are so small and lightweight, the base of the vehicle
is replete with them. �They attach to the skin of the vehicle, and on
its base, and propellant is passed automatically through the hot spot,
regardless of how the vehicle is oriented. �The intense laser beam is
also redirected from the ground during launch.

So, for every single launcher described here, that puts 600,000 pounds
into GEO -and 280,000 pounds to the moon or mars, with the erection of
the powersat network, and the perfection of the thermoelectric laser
engine, we now have THREE vehicles capable of putting up 6,000,000
pounds to GEO and 5,000,000 pounds to Mars!!!

I mentioned these elswhere in other posts, but perhaps it wasn't
clear.

A fleet of a three dozen vehicles lifting 15 million pounds across the
solar system each year becomes a fleet of 108 vehicles lifting 780
million pounds across the solar system each year.

This by only continuing power plant construction and solving a few
open issues with cooling PV cells operating under intense
conditions.

Clearly the most efficient growth path in performance with the least
R&D and investment dollars.

The next step is to take this technology, and put it on smaller
vehicles using highly reliable MEMs rocket arrays

http://www.nsti.org/procs/Nanotech2006v3/3/W51.03http://www.me.berkel....

using the same approach...

A 1/2 ton vehicle carrying four adults - requires no more than 200 MW
when pulling a little less than 2 gees - and requires 84 kg of
propellant - a little more than 1 cubic meter of liquid hydrogen - to
attain orbit.

In this application, it may be possible to use superheated steam that
decomposes by thermolysis - and then ionize both the oxygen and the
hydrogen - but there are open issues. �Even so, being able to use
water - reduces propellant volume to 84 liters - about the size of an
automobile gas tank today!!!

The age of the daily driver rocket will certainly have arrived.

I have related here the thought process that went into my decisions to
proceed as I have - I believe these are the best decisions by far.

There's no question that LEO or GSO space and that of our extremely
nearby Selene/moon offers nearly unlimited and relatively clean
energy. �It'll be just ten times as spendy and decades if not
centuries down the road.

In the mean time, there's ten times as much renewable and clean
terrestrial accessible solar, wind, geothermal, tidal and thorium
based energy for accommodating humanity as is. �We need only to
develop 100 TW of such clean and affordable energy, plus a
distribution grid that's mostly terrestrial.

Although, if your private space based alternatives can be competitive,
then so be it.

� ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth- Hide quoted text -

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Of course what you say has nothing at all to do with what Ian and I
are talking about.

A common fully reusable booster built around M1 and J2 engine sets -
using standardized components among the for major space agencies -
spreading the cost of operations and research and so forth - would not
only spend less money than todays agencies over all, but achieve far
more in space.

Three 9.7 million pound elements joined in parallel, operating as two
stages, lofting two 1 million pound stages in line with the central
element - is capable of sending 600,000 lbs to GEO and returning, or
sending 280,000 lbs to Lunar Surface or Mars system and returning with
the payload. 500,000 lbs can be sent one way with return of the
nearly empty vehicle.

280,000 pounds is enough to supply 60 people for 24 months - providing
an instant lunar base or mars base - and in cargo mode, 60 to 120
people per landed 500,000 lb module - particularly when using local
water supplies.

600,000 lbs to GEO is enough to do solar power satellites testing.

1,000,000 lbs to MEO is enough to put up large constellations of
50,000 lb communications and sensing satellites that provide a global
telecom and surveillance service.

By boosting a higher performing ion rocket into orbit, payloads to
high orbit can be doubled - though with limited power, thrusts are so
low, that mission times are adversely affected - particularly in
cislunar space.

Once adequate solar power satellites are operational, and laser
beaming is done cheaply enough, we might consider a laser/ion
combination or a very high performing laser/thermal/ion combination -
this last innovation once carried out successfully will put over 5
million pounds on the moon and mars, and 6 million pounds at GEO -
enough for very large solar power satellites.

The intense laser/pv device is a component for a near solar surface
solar laser system that is 1000s times less expensive per peak watt
than earth orbiting solar power satellites - and provides a means for
large scale interplanetary and even interstellar travel to be common
place.

And as per Mook usual, the lower 99.9% of humanity gets to pay for
everything, including paying the ultimate price or your perpetrated
wars.

We need a viable plan of action that'll offer 100 TW of clean/
renewable energy in order to safely and efficiently accommodate 1e10
humans.

Your ENRON form of off-world derived energy, at $10/kwhr by the time
it gets fully operational, isn't such a good idea. Otherwise I like
working with powerful laser cannons, especially those capable of
pumping out fast moving Rn ions.

~ BG
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