Re: one way trip to the moon

On Nov 11, 9:15 am, ohara...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Nov 11, 2:09 am, BradGuth <bradg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



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On Nov 10, 11:57 pm, ohara...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Nov 10, 9:29 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Nov 10, 12:30 am, BradGuth <bradg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 9, 6:35 pm, "jonathan" <H...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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If you were given a diagnosis of having only 6 months to live, would
you consider taking a one way trip to the moon to explore something
significant like a lava tube? Consider that the last of your air
tanks would have CO mixed in so you would simply go to sleep. You
would leave a real legacy of new knowledge and there would be no need
for returning you to earth.

What's so significant about the moon?

It's the only one of its kind, and it's seriously big, massive and
nearby, taking an impressive radial tidal force of 2e20 N/s just for
holding onto one another.

Being shoe-horned into a tiny, smelly compartment with no exit
only to be relieved by the chores of hauling rocks around
sounds like a sentence more suitable for a murderer.

We'd never suggest it would be any walk in the park, although our NASA/
Apollo missions made it look pretty darn passive and otherwise merely
a little warm and fuzzy guano island like. Perhaps our death row
inmates should go first.

It's not that I don't think learning more about the moon isn't
interesting, only unimportant.

If our Selene/moon is unimportant, then Mars isn't worth 1% of that
much.

It's the future of life that's important, not the physical past.
The long term past or future of any complex system is doomed
to be equal parts predictable and catastrophic change.
As all self organized systems follow power law/earthquake
dynamics.

The path to significance, to understanding nature, is in studying the
here-and-now. And looking to the highest levels of complexity
or emergent creations as the source of knowledge.

The secrets of nature resides within each of us, not...out there.

I would only somewhat agree with that. However, Earth is not for
everyone, and Earth alone is not the one and only seed of complex life
as we know it.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

"shoehorned into a tiny smelly place moving rocks around", sounds just
like caving which I supposedly do for fun. I spent the weekend in the
aft locker of my sailboat crawling over the diesel engine repairing
it, certainly no smaller than any spacecraft. Seriously, I'd have no
problem with this if I had only a few months to live. You'd think
there would be people in line to do something like this.

In line and willing to spend every last cent of their loot if
necessary. This could actually become our first for-profit mission
before ever taking off.

~ BG

Actually, I think the list may be short, billionaires with terminal
illness are sort of a select group.
However, If I had such an illness, a billionaire could sponsor me to
do it. Any other takers?

Seriously, it could be done with the Falcon 9 from SpaceX.

You obviously haven't followed their track record. A North Korean
mission launch would be more reliable, and not 10% the all-inclusive
cost of anything SpaceX.

~ BG

Man, If I got only 6 months to live, riding up on Falcon 9 would be
one helluva way to out with a bang even if it didnt work. Reliability
is for people with lots of time.

You got a valid point, although it would be at least nice to make it
all the way to Selene before having to crash and burn (so to speak).

~ BG
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