Re: Are politicians averse to leaving LEO?

On 18 Jan, 18:11, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:On 17 Jan, 21:30, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>
:> :On 17 Jan, 02:18, "Jorge R. Frank" <jrfr...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :>
:> :> In addition to Rand's arguments on orbital inclination, the argument on
:> :> orbital altitude is that ISS had to be situated below the Van Allen
:> :> belts to minimize radiation shielding requirements, and had to be
:> :> reachable by both the space shuttle and Soyuz/Progress, the latter of
:> :> which has an altitude ceiling of 425 km.
:> :>
:> :That is the reason for the low orbit. The inlination is another
:> :matter, If anything a high inclination gives more radiation.
:> :
:
:This in itself speaks volumes. Radiation is a technical point. The
:Russian launch sites are political. An equatorial orbit would be
:perfectly ascessible from Kourou where Soyuz is now based.
:

But it wasn't based there then.  If ISS wasn't where it is the
Russians wouldn't have played.  End of story.

:
:If you are
:INTERNATIONAL you make your launch facilities available to everyone.
:What is the rooted objection to launcing a Proton from Kourou?
:

None, except you couldn't do it until last year.

:
:Or even a Shuttle?
:

No capability and no way to get everything there.

:
:"I" to be implies that the best facilities are used from every nation.
:Kourou is overwhemingly the best launch site in current operatrion.
:This is what TRADE means. There is a site in Brazil even closer to the
:equator but that lacks the facilities of Kourou.
:

The same facilities that Kourou lacked until last year.  Why are we
building in Kourou and not in Brazil?

I think this is all true. However the fact still remains that we do
not have the resources to view space as a nationalistic endeavout.
CERN is in Geneva, there is no point in anyone else building an
accelerator. If space could be viewed in the same way. The fact that
it isn't is in itself significant.
:> :
:> :Martha Adams in fact strikes me as one of the more sensible people in
:> :this group.
:> :
:>
:> This says more about how loony you are than it does about anything
:> else.
:>
:
:This is the case in point. I am beginning to see that the fact that
:anyone going to a space colony would be able to build a VN machine
:easily is something that the Establishment wishes to hide.
:

Yes, because it's NOT a 'fact'.

Oh no it isn't oh yes it is! Pantomine. It is a fact that we are not
being told about whether it is intentional or not. I do not believe
Stephen Hawking sees himself as a Davros like figure, the leader of
the Eternals, although the fact that Davros was encased in a
travellator (like the Daleks [or Dalekhs]) does provide certain
parallels. He did speak about survivalism though.

In fact if you believe, as I do, that anthropogenic dangers are the
main dangers, then space colonies provide no protection. Indeed they
promise even greater dangers.


- Ian Parker
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  • Re: Are politicians averse to leaving LEO?
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  • Re: Are politicians averse to leaving LEO?
    ... :>:Russian launch sites are political. ... An equatorial orbit would be ... :>:INTERNATIONAL you make your launch facilities available to everyone. ... :>:What is the rooted objection to launcing a Proton from Kourou? ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: Are politicians averse to leaving LEO?
    ... :>:Russian launch sites are political. ... An equatorial orbit would be ... :>:INTERNATIONAL you make your launch facilities available to everyone. ... :>:What is the rooted objection to launcing a Proton from Kourou? ...
    (sci.space.policy)
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