Re: errors in Moore's film

From: Terrell Miller (millerto_at_bellsouth.net)
Date: 07/13/04 

Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:34:07 -0400

"Rand Simberg" <simberg.interglobal@org.trash> wrote in message
news:416effdb.245850183@news.west.earthlink.net...
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:50:23 -0400, in a place far, far away, "Terrell
> Miller" <millerto@bellsouth.net> made the phosphor on my monitor glow
> in such a way as to indicate that:
>
> >> Me? I'll judge the film after watching it, not until then.
> >
> >he's right, Rand. you need to make time to go see it (or screw it, just
> >download the goddamn thing and have done with it; as long as you watch
it).
> >
> >One of the instant turn-offs in conversation is when somebody is slagging
> >something, and then has to admit they don't actually have firsthand
> >knowledge of what they are talking about.
> >
> >Just think of it as Due Diligence. You're a media pundit. Even though
your
> >area of influence isn't in politics, you *are* a Spokesman of sorts. You
> >need to get your ducks in a row, or else you need to sit out the
discussion.
> >
> >I'd much prefer the former, frankly. You're very bright and articulate
and
> >you have a podium to stand on. People will listen to you *if* ytou know
what
> >you're talking about.
>
> I'll ask you the same question. How will the lies and illogic in the
> transcript transform themselves into truth and logic if I actually
> watch the flick?

they won't, for the simple reason there is virtually no truth or logic in
the film to begin with.

But watching the movie will get you two things, each vital:

1) street cred. People will take what you say a lot more seriously if you
demonstrate that you actually have seen teh film.

2) the transcript doesn't match the cinematic experience. Moore is making a
*film*, not a book this time. A large part of understanding why people fall
fopr his *** is when you are sitting there and he's talking about how Bush
didn't show up for a National Guard physical...adn then Moore shuts up and
plays a five-second excerpt from Clapton's "Cocaine", at which point the
theater cracks up.

Unless you have experienced firsthand the shitty little gimmicks Moore uses
like that one...you don't know what the movie is about or exactly how people
relate to it.

> There are many people with taller soapboxes than me dissing this film.
> I don't really care much what people think I think of it, particularly
> people the likes of "Jazzman," who's unlikely to be persuaded by
> anything I think.

you'd be surprised. Maybe not right away, but I've been in similar usenet
fistfights where I had people ganging up on me, calling me a liar and a
moron, etc. etc. Six months later, they agree with me. You *can* change
people's minds. 

-- 
Terrell Miller
millerto@bellsouth.net
"When there's a panic on, don't panic yourself. You try to remain cool and
calm, and try to pick out exactly what it is you want to know, what it is
you want to do, and then go ahead and do it."
-Donald Regan on the Reagan assassination attempt
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