Re: Perhaps there's hope for NASA yet

John Doe <jdoe@xxxxxxx> wrote in
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> "Jorge R. Frank" wrote:
>> Either CEV will be accelerated to close the gap (which is what Mike
>> Griffin wants to do), or the US will issue an RFP for commercial ISS
>> resupply.
>
> Even if they manage to get a CEV to fly by 2010, it will be a bare
> bones early version without any "cargo module". So it might be like a
> Soyuz, but NASA will be without the ability to bring up CMGs or other
> items to the outside of the station.

How do you know that? I don't think even Mike Griffin knows yet what the
"accelerated" CEV will look like or what it will do, so you certainly
don't.

> And unless NASA issues an RFP *NOW*, it won't have any capabilities
> to keep the station supplied by 2010 when shuttle is burried.

NASA's budget contains $160 million to support an RFP in FY06. Of course,
you'd know that if you were paying attention.

> Has
> NASA begun discussions to buy extra ATV or HTVs ? Can either system
> deliver outsided cargo such as CMGs ?

Not without extensive mods.

> And while you say that CEV has budgets now, so did X38, CRV and many
> other projects in the last decade,

Not as much as CEV. NASA has *already* appropriated as much money for CEV
as they did for X-38/CRV throughout its entire lifetime.

> all intended to replace the
> Shuttle,

Incorrect.

> all with promises very similar to those of CEV. And after a
> while, all had their budget cut.

The difference this time is that the shuttle has a retirement date. That
raises the urgency a great deal. NASA knows that it cannot afford to screw
up CEV.

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