Re: White Knight to Orbit was Re: Designing a new orbiter



"Earl Colby Pottinger" <earlcp@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Pete Lynn" <pete@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> :
>
>> "Earl Colby Pottinger" <earlcp@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > But what does this have to do with the original
>> > suggestion? Ofcourse the best point to launch if you
>> > were doing this is at SS1 max speed not height.
>> >
>> > But this begs the real questions.
>> >
>> > How much mass can White Knight lift? I did some
>> > searches but could not find the page that I know
>> > existed before with that information.
>>
>> 8,000lb comes to mind, but do not quote me on that.
>>
>> > Considering that mass budget, what is the max cargo
>> > that can be taken to orbit by an air launched rocket
>> > that meets the limit?
>>
>> Assuming 8000 pound and a payload fraction similar to the Falcon V,
>> around 250lb.
>
> Well that tends to far bigger than a lunch box :)
>
You seem to missing the entire point of the lunch box exercise. The point
is, you need to look at the entire system. Just because two separate
vehicles can do this or that by themselves has little meaning. What is the
entire system capable of? My guess is it would take more than 250lbs of
equipment and modifications to mate these two systems together. Maybe I'm
wrong, but until someone actually does it--which would be way too cool--it's
all just conversation.

To be taken as an authority in this discussion, IMHO, the ante is experience
with a fully working system. A lot of people joined in this discussion need
to get some engineering background--and I'm not talking about driving
trains. Unless you have the stripes from fighting all the personal battles
and balancing all the requirements for a working design, you're a pretender.
I'm not singling anyone out. There's a lot of good stuff here, but there's
a lot half-baked too.







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