Re: How Rockets Differ From Jets
- From: "Brad Guth" <ieisbradguth@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 27 Oct 2005 12:59:02 -0700
>tomcat; I just wish they would ask 'real' questions regarding the
>engineering/construction of a spaceplane, not jeer, leer, and carry on.
Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen any time soon. Thus it's up
to the few and far between folks like us to accomplish as much as
possible in spite of all their topic/author stalking, bashing and/or
banishment (not to mention the PC terminating spermware attacks).
>To me a gigantic gleaming white spaceplane would be a sight to behold.
>With 11 SSME's generating 5.5 million pounds of thrust and a cargo hold
>filled with 200,000 pounds of satellites, lunar modules and the like.
At less than half the combined inert mass and being of everything is
new and improved as per your CNT/basalt composite spaceplane, in which
case just three (not eleven) of those SSMEs is good enough for the next
generation of do-everything spaceplanes. Remember as to the vast
consumption rate of even the three SSMEs is still rather impressive,
thus an extremely large although fully composite ET may have to go into
orbiting the likes of Venus on behalf of getting our folks headed back
toward Earth, although assuming our having the U238-->Ra226-->Rn222
breeder reactor onboard for providing lots of spare energy and thus a
sufficient long-term supply of LRn to ionize, thereby accomplishing
CO2-->CO/O2 while on the fly seems perfectly doable as a viable method
of filling up the onboard tanks with CO and O2 and possibly even
obtaining a little H2 as extracted and processed into LH2 from out of
those thick clouds before entirely exiting the Venus atmosphere, which
BTW according to team KECK and of others before already has a perfectly
good layer of O2 existing just above them nighttime clouds.
Remember that any such viable composite spaceplane having to venture
below them relatively cool nighttime clouds of Venus is going to have a
rather tough time of opposing that much buoyancy, thus damn little
applied energy should get the craft safely through those fast moving
thick clouds and into a safe and energy efficient rigid-airship mode of
cruising along via LRn222-->ion thrust at roughly 25 km off the
geothermally hot and nasty deck, thereby saving the SSMEs and of their
liquid/slush fuel & oxidiser for accomplishing the exit phase and
establishing their essential return home flight path that's going to
need all of the SSME and LRn-->ION thrust you've got to spare.
Here's a wee bit more of my dyslexic thoughts as to our efforts having
to continually oppose the mainstream of "jeering, leering, and carrying
on" with our best efforts of returning the favor with just as much love
as we can muster.
Venus Express, Lunar Space Elevator and anything of CNT/basalt
composite spaceplanes get nothing but usenet flak and spermware.
Members of this usenet which claim to NOT understand and/or appreciate
as to what the few of us non-mainstreamers are sharing about the most
likely truth(s), as to what these two extremely nearby orbs of our moon
and that of Venus have to offer, are only doing such because of their
inbred arrogance, hatreds and intellectual as well as biological
bigotry that's within the very DNA/RNA of their soul that's keeping the
disinformation-R-us walls up and thereby the rest of us and the vast
bulk of humanity as far away from the rest of the truth as possible by
way of using conditional laws of physics, soft-science and as much
hocus pocus of evidence exclusions that would make the likes of OJ
Simpson extremely envious.
There's nothing misunderstandable about the Lunar Space Elevator and of
it's eventual 1.28 km diameter of a Counter Mass and 1e9 m3
International Space Station within . The LSE-CM/ISS and of it's tethers
to/from the moon as well as for the tether dipole element that's headed
directly towards Earth, for reaching to within 50,000 km of mother
Earth (25,000 km if you'd dare), that is nothing but the utmost win-win
for moon/Earth sciences as well as for extreme astronomy and the all
around salvation on behalf of the environment of Earth, and thereby on
behalf of the sequestered humanity upon planet Earth. Of what's not
understandable is so much more than the following list of interesting
sub-topics that are seemingly taboo/nondisclosure;
What's the average and interactive range of the mutual nullification
point?
What's the final impact velocity of deploying an item away from the
ME-L1 zone?
What's the profile of the daytime lunar atmosphere being mostly of
radon, argon and sodium?
What's the profile of the nighttime lunar atmosphere being mostly of
radon, argon and sodium?
What's the average daytime surface TBI dosage and spectrum profile of
secondary/recoil photons?
What's the average nighttime surface TBI dosage and spectrum profile of
secondary/recoil photons?
What's a typical day (per 24 hours) of receiving micro whatever impacts
per square meter?
How much of the solar wind is getting deflected/moderated by the
14,000+km lunar atmosphere?
What's the depth and surface tension of a composite dust of meteorites
and impact related shards?
What's available in the way of hallow rilles and/or of potentially
accessible geode pockets?
Why is there so little honestly known about our once upon a time icy
proto-moon?
Why are the CEV teams having to reinvent their fly-by-rocket
moon-lander wheel?
What are all the usenet MI6/NSA moles and spooks so afraid of?
Why is topic/author stalking, bashing and/or banishment along with
delivering spermware their status quo?
There's certainly another worthy list of related sub-topics as to the
observationology and honestly deductive 2+2 worth of humanly subjective
reasoning, as to what simply looks far more artificial than not about
Venus, meaning that Venus locals or ETs must have been there (could
even still be there) as having accomplished a great deal upon Venus
right under the very best of our extremely brown noses. Of course, it's
fairly hard to appreciate what's so nearby and so easily obtainable as
compared to our moon or even Mars, and so much harder yet when most of
our best talents and resources have gone into a mutually perpetrated
fiasco of cold-wars that has sucked most of the life out of humanity
and that of our global energy resources taken nearly bone dry, badly
polluting our environment in the process of creating our very own
artificially induced global-warming thermal imbalance via albedo
reduction. We seem only further diverted and at the ongoing demise of
accomplishing so much collateral damage and carnage of the innocent, so
much so that it's truly amazing we can even devote another honest
dollar and much less talent to anything other than surviving our own
terrestrial doings.
Those of us like "tomcat" and myself suggesting upon improvements
and/or replacements of using composite SRBs, a composite ET as well as
per creating most of the entire shuttle/spaceplane, that even though
being of larger volume and of better capability in more ways than our
existing fleet of two antique shuttles, whereas their replacement as
becoming a combined SRBs, ET and spaceplane composite package should
have half the dry inert mass, while at the same time manage larger and
essentially better than twice the payload tonnage that's capable of
getting such payloads safely deployed to 400+km is seemingly every bit
as topic/author bad off as per discussing the viable relocation of ISS,
or even that of the Radium(Ra226)-->LRn222-->ion thrusters that could
only improve upon the way such things are accomplished. Whereas instead
of receiving positive influx of similar and/or better notions, thus
better math as associated with the available hard-science that's usable
as is, instead all that's coming along this usenet path of
self-destruction and demise upon humanity is more of the same old
mainstream flak and PC terminating spermware, that which usenet servers
like GOOGLE/NOVA have known about and certainly know of exactly where
such spermware code is originating and in most cases they'd know
specifically by whom because, server computers are not nearly as dumb
and dumber than those encharge which continually claim to know all
there is to know.
~
Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree; WAR is WAR, thus "in war there are
no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason of having to deal
with the likes of others that haven't been playing by whatever rules,
such as GW Bush.
Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
.
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