Re: How Rockets Differ From Jets

>tomcat; WWIII is something of a problem with a major world nation
>declaring they will 'wipe another nation off the map'. Frankly,
>I agree with the Bush foreign policy of 'strength with restraint'.
That's what I'd thought, you're another born-again sicko type that
doesn't believe there was ever a perpetrated cold-war, and thus you're
now claiming as being so entirely snookered about our NASA/Apollo
fiasco that sucks and blows is why of course you'd be the exact type
that's 100+% on the side of a LLPOF SOB of a resident warlord like GW
Bush. It takes an audience for the likes of Hitler to have achieved
their goals, and you're certainly acting as an audience of a million or
more because, that's exactly what folks that believe in the tooth fairy
have to do, brown-nose and suck-up to the nearest mainstream status quo
*** that's polluting mother Earth and creating the global energy
demise that'll get us into a WWIII situation in the first place.

Why don't you just say the truth that you actually despise most of
humanity and don't actually give a tinkers damn about our environment?
At least that way you'd be right up there with Popes exterminating
Cathars and along with the much worse nature of what the likes of your
beloved Bush/Cheney have accomplished.

>I believe that the Apollo missions were well documented with video and
>photos. America was an honest and open nation back then. I don't
>believe that there was any deception regarding the moon landings.
You'd certainly be the type that'll believe used toilet paper was good
to go as long as it had your pagan NASA stamp of approval somewhere
upon it. You actually want me to believe that you're that pathetically
stupid and otherwise science ignorant to boot?

Your "America was an honest and open nation back then" is about as
space-toiled worthy of being as skewed and as deceptive as it gets.
America was being continually lied to by liars exactly like yourself
back then, and it has cost us(humanity) hundreds of thousands of
innocent lives and trillions of hard earned dollars over the past 4
decades, with no apparent end in sight. Thus you're acting exactly as
to what represents the mainstream status quo, as pretending at being
dumbfounded over anything that might rock your good ship LOLLIPOP. My
God and Christ almighty on another stick, you're truly pathetic.

>Having seen some of the pro and con documentaries I believe that those
>questions have been answered. One of the overlooked facts of the moon
>landing is that the moon dust reflects light according to it's
>substance. This helped to lighten shadows, and it may account for any
>'Xenon Effect' as well.
Horse pucky! That's it, that's all that you have to offer are some
spendy infomercials that do not have a stitch of hard-science nor even
having been based upon the regular laws of physics. Well then, you can
kiss that He3 goodbye because it takes a highly reactive moon in order
for He3 to have been created in the first place.

Apparently the closer you get to something that's as extremely dark and
nasty as our moon, the whiter and brighter if nor retroreflective in
spots it gets, and Kodak film becomes insensitive to hard-X-rays and
has almost no sensitivity to what's near-blue, near-UV or UV-a spectrum
worthy, as well as the laws of physics regarding secondary/recoil
energy do not apply. Of course the little mater of physics regarding
the extremely dense atmosphere of sodium, plus argon and finally a deck
covered by radon are a;so MOS conditional laws of physics that only
applies to our moon.

Here I'd though that you actually had more than half a brain. Sorry, my
mistake. Thus everything you have to say is hereby at risk of being
associated with what's worse off than Hitler, Popes exterminating
Cathars, Jews exterminating their prisoners and then attacking our USN
LIBERTY and so forth until every street flows with the blood of the
innocent is exactly why you're catering to and flaunting yourself on
behalf of sucking up to the upper most 0.1% of humanity.

>My spaceplane cost could be off a billion to two, but not "ten fold too
>low." It is all in knowing how to build it without expensive R&D --
>and getting it right the first time. NASA has already done the R&D
>with it's many tubular rockets and the Shuttle. Let's not do
>unnecessary, and extremely expensive, duplication.
At best you're nothing but another sicko liar. However, if you were a
German rocket scientist and/or German spaceplane engineer, in which
case I might have to agree with some of your arguments. However, in
this country a honest billion doesn't hardly buy anything. Of course,
what the hell was I thinking about being "honest". Since you're pro
Bush/Cheney there's no sign of any honesty nor remorse anywhere within
your "high standards and accountability", that's reinforced along by
your "so what's the difference" policy that sucks and blows. Therefore
evidence exclusions, skewed science and a heavy usage of those
conditional laws of physics is all that you and other brown-nosed
minions actually have to work with.

>> I see that you've intentionally avoided using the LSE-CM/ISS, whereas
>> instead 'ISS' is the very best ruse that you can muster. Is the
>> 'tomcat' ISS one and the same as LSE-CM/ISS?
>tomcat; I am not sure what your are talking about. Please explain LSE-CM/ISS.
That statement just goes to show of what a certified blood-sucking
MI6/NSA~CIA spook you really are, because only an incest cloned borg of
a intellectual bigot doesn't understand nor appreciate what a Lunar
Space Elevator is about. Did I forget to mention that you and
absolutely everything you stand for sucks and blows.

>When all the air is removed from the fuel tanks -- my spacplane -- will
>float! It will weigh less than nothing in Earth's atmosphere, even
>with the SSMEs attached.
MOS LLPOF crapolla, and you're certainly full of it if you think that
any viable spaceplane and of it's dry/naked mass is going to ever
become buoyant within a 1.275 kg/m3 worth of atmosphere. Only a pretend
spaceplane as designed by a spook is going to have an inert mass
that'll take to containing a sufficient vaccume that could then float.
Even with a slush LH2/LO2 requirement of such horrific volumes, there's
absolutely no way that more than 50% buoyancy could be achieved by
anything that's so high-speed and space-travel capable. Just your SSMEs
as fully integrated are each representing at least 10,000 lbs, and
there's hundreds if not thousands of other such items that couldn't
possibly improve upon the odds of reduced spaceplane mass as based upon
creating a vacuum generated buoyancy factor that'll get anywhere near
1:1. Thus once again you've proven worthy of exactly what it took in
order to become yet another Hitler and thus Bush/Cheney supporter, in
which case being a certified liar is all that counts.

>It will leave the atmosphere within 2 minutes. It will go twice as far
>to leave the atmosphere but will have achieved near orbital speed while
>doing so. The Shuttle is still trying to hit mach 3 at that point.
Once again you've proven exactly what a MI6/NSA~CIA spook of a
technological bigot you really are. Is being such a LLPOF your everyday
norm? Is there anything you're not willing to distort and/or lie about?

You can't change your spaceplane configuration on the fly in order to
suit each and every argument, but that's exactly what you're doing,
which is also exactly what those SOBs Bush and Cheney have been doing
that you admire to death, that is as long as it's someone other's
death.

>Substitute 100 Terra Watt laser cannons and eliminate all this Murphy's
>Law breaking tether stuff and you are looking at possible reality.
>This is why NASA and the USAF cannot wait around for 12 years or so.
>We are now in a much deadlier space race than in the 50's when all that
>was a stake was who gets a satellite in orbit first.
Again, MOS mainstream crapolla. Other than the statement that we're
still in a cold-war with regard to a space-race that we've lost as of
decades ago, as everything else you have to say isn't worth the used
toilet-paper that your NASA had previously certified as being just fine
and dandy for reuse.

>A sub-orbital could do that, but you are making too much of the
>radiation danger. A combination of new radiation blocking materials
>and the speed of flight through the Van Allen belts nullifies the need
>for 10 meter thick basalt.
You're the one crying out for having to survive those worse case
situations, and therefore lo and behold, being marooned within the Van
Allen zone of death is certainly bad enough, however once outside of
the Van Allen expanse is where whatever's incoming, passing by and/or
of lunar secondary/recoil radiation is clearly one of those situations
you can not so easily control nor outrun with even your high velocity
spaceplane. Getting yourself closer to the solar illuminated and thus
most reactive side of our moon is just another good example of being
situated in the wrong place for too long is quite DNA/RNA deadly from
the inside out. However, my plan of 'banked bone marrow' just might
save yourself after having been exposed to such a typically bad sort of
TBI day in space or even a few hours worth upon the solar illuminated
moon.

Unfortunately, there has been no hard-science derived from the actual
surface of the moon. Thus you can not possibly argue against what other
hard-science and the regular laws of physics have to say about our
moon. It's that simple; and since you claim as being so all-knowing and
pro-NASA/Apollo, therefore you're the one that's intentionally lying
and I'm not.

Being within a spaceplane of such extremely low density construction is
pretty much the same as a lethal moon-walk upon an absolutely scorching
hot moonscape that's sharing more secondary/recoil dosage coming at
your DNA/RNA from every which way but lose, and that's obviously way
more so than any intellectual bigot like yourself can appreciate. Of
course, someone claiming as being as dumb and dumber and thus as easily
snookered and thereby as dumbfounded as your self is exactly the sort
of crew that'll be needed for such one-way missions. And here I'd
thought that you and Bush/Cheney have always considered that Muslims
were supposedly the stupid ones that needed to die first. Sorry about
that, my mistake again.

>The world is a deep dark shadowy place, and I have tread where few men
>have gone before. Truth is stranger than fiction.
You'd certainly know best, being such a LLPOF spook certainly has it's
insider advantages of knowing about as well as per creating quit a bit
of nasty stuff.

>A lot of brave men and women have lost their lives to save the
>American People from WWIII, armaggedon style, and I think they
>deserve high praise, not condemnation.
It seems that America deserved 9/11 and far worse (possibly even
WWIII), especially if the likes of yourself is what represents any part
of that America since it was your America that created and continually
perppetrated the cold-war from the very get-go. Of course the USSR
goverment was also achieving none better from whatever they'd managed
to pillage and plunder. That's only decades of our being lied to and
directly costing humanity hundreds of thousands if not millions of
innocent lives, costing us trillions upon trillions and setting
humanity back at least a century, but that's only if we manage to avoid
WW-III. Thus you're nothing but the worse possible brown-nosed minion
of the mainstream status quo that created, perpetrated and seemingly
rellish in the glory of being the bloody santimounious and Third Reich
sort of *** that you are. You must be old-world German, and damn
proud of it, thus Bush and Cheney will likely fund your spaceplane with
our hard earned dollars and the continuing blood and guts of others
getting in our way.

>Brad, you are blaming muslims/jews. Don't overlook other possibilities.
What an absolute bloody *** sucking minion you actually are. I've
never overlooked other possibilities, and I'm certainly NOT blaming
Muslims nor even most Jews. I'm blaming the sorry SOBs exactly like
yourself that'll continually perpetrate and formally perpetuate
disinformation in order to give the true extremist like Bush/Cheney
their audience and sustain their resources for going on such a global
pillaging and plundering campane of stalking and raping our environment
as well as humanity. Which chapter of their Skull and Bones cult are
you a member of or attempting to join?

>Evil, bigotry, and hatred get things going, but few want things to go
>that way. That is why the U.S. is doing 'everything' possible to avert
>WWIII/Armageddon.
The wose possible evil and hatreds are clearly us, as in being all
American bigots and LLPOF minions of our own status quo. Thanks to
folks exactly like yourself is why it's become far worse off and more
9/11-->WWIII capable than it's ever been. The upper most 0.1% of
humanity is what's bringing on WWIII, and obviously you're a big part
of that group or at least trying as hard as you can to become a card
carrying member by way of your spaceplane, representing yet another
multi-decade and subsequently another multi-trillion dollar fiasco
that'll essentially help pollute mother Earth while burning off that
last barrel of spendy and now bloody oil.

Technically spaceplanes are doable, but so is jumping off high
buildings, so is starving millions of innocent folks to death, so is
hiding the truth and continually lying our sorry butts off until those
NASA/Apollo cows come home. There's at least 10 lies for every truth in
America, so what does that say?

No matching funds for sickos like "tomcat".
~

Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree; WAR is WAR, thus "in war there are
no rules" - In fact, war has been the very reason of having to deal
with the likes of others that haven't been playing by whatever rules,
such as GW Bush.
Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

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