Re: Go To Mars?


Secret237@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> The area in the foreground and to the right is very close to where the
> picture was taken, if these are the houses you are "seeing" they would
> have to be awfully small.
>
> It's just a bunch of Mars dirt and that's all.
> Not meant to be a safe answer, just a realistic one.


What you see is what you get.

Cameras don't tell you everything, but they don't lie either. The
Spirit Rover is in the Columbia Hills, small mountains really, and many
of the shots are looking downward and are pictures of distant objects.

Earth has lots of food. Mars is mostly rocks. People are taller here,
that's all. Being one foot tall isn't that bad if everyone else is the
same.


> Brad Guth wrote:
> > This is your topic, thus you should call JPL. At least then we'd have a
> > better understanding of the scale we're looking at.
> >
> > This is just a copy of what I'd offered above. It allowed myself a
> > indirect method of essentially deriving a SWAG of a notion as to the
> > possible scale of such things.
> >
> > NASA Mars Exploration Rover Status 17 October 2005.
> > http://www.lyle.org/mars/bysol/2-633.html
> > http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2N182561323ESFAEVOP1560L0M1.JPG.html
> > According to the NASA/Spirit specs; 136 kg rovers commenced their
> > roving 15 Jan 2004; managing 100 m/day, and I seem to think that's a
> > combined effort. Thus less than 50 m/day is having an extremely good
> > rover day.
> >
> > That's simply not exactly zooming, thus the day before and the day
> > after sol-633 should be at most within +/- 50 meters.
> >
> > "Sol 633: Spirit took pictures of targets on Hillary using the
> > microscopic imager, performed an alpha particle X-ray spectrometer
> > integration at night and checked for dust devils."
> >
> > "As of the end of sol 633, (Oct. 13, 2005), Spirit has driven 4,993
> > meters (3.10 miles)."
> >
> > That's only an average of 7.9 meters per solar day. I have a dog-food
> > fetish slug that has that pathetic performance beat by at least 10
> > fold.
> >
> > "Sol 634 (Oct. 15, 2005): Spirit finished investigating a rock outcrop
> > called "Hillary" near the summit of Husband Hill. Spirit used the alpha
> > particle X-ray spectrometer and the microscopic imager to study
> > Hillary, then Spirit stowed the robotic arm. Spirit bumped back about 2
> > meters (7 feet) from the outcrop to complete remote imaging. Spirit
> > used the miniature thermal emission spectrometer and panoramic camera
> > to study targets on Hillary."
> >
> > "Sol 635: Spirit drove 47 meters (154 feet) east from the summit" (I
> > believe that's zoomong down hill).
> >
> > http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/632/2N182478385EFFAEVOP1590R0M1.JPG
> > http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2N182553064EFFAEVOP1590R0M1.JPG.html
> > This one of solar day 632 and the next of sol 633 includes the rover
> > tracks within frame, thus affording some scale of what the navigation
> > camera sees per given frame gets us to suggesting that the large bolder
> > within the rectangular clearing as depicted in the sol-633 navigation
> > image might be no larger than 0.5 meter, perhaps even as little as 0.25
> > meter tall.
> >
> > This doesn't exclude upon a high degree of artificial and/or
> > intelligent life as having been involved, it just gets the relative
> > size of their Martian lives down to a rather nifty small scale.
> >
> >
> > Perhaps at best/largest similar to model railroad (1:48) O scale,
> > though even more likely (1:64) S scale (3/16" per foot) could be the
> > case.
> >
> >
> > This means that a 6 foot Earth human would be easily stepping upon a
> > similar proportioned 1.125" Martian, and of whatever Martian kids of
> > less than 0.5" would easily get stuck in our boot or tire treads. A
> > full sized 2-man rover that's zooming along at 5 m/s would be like
> > creating a total demise of their entire community within a second of
> > our driving over their township by mistake. If that doesn't start the
> > war of our two worlds, I don't know what would.
> >
> > >Based on this picture of a 'possible' house it may very well be that
> > >the Martians are the 'wee people' the Irish like to talk about.
> > You could be right about those "wee people". At least from what little
> > I know of smaller than us human folk, whereas smaller is a whole lot
> > better off at being so much stronger for their body mass and certainly
> > a whole lot more bio-energy efficient at that, could even have become
> > nearly radiation proof and otherwise doing just fine and dandy on far
> > less than 0.1% O2.
> >
> > But, what if they've developed those tiny H-Bombs, whereas those little
> > heathen Martian bastards might get some weird notions of blasting holes
> > in our boots. Then what?


Earth has to watch out! Body size doesn't mean much at all. It is
technology that matters. Their nukes are probably as powerful as ours
-- and they might have terrawatt lasers besides.



tomcat

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