Re: The Cold Equations


Brad Guth wrote:
> >NASA may plan on taking 12 years to return to the Moon, but Russia and
> >China will probably be there in 4 or 5 years. The U.S. is heading for
> >quite an . . . embarrassment. I wouldn't want to be in the NASA
> >program when that happens! The American public will 'clean house'.
> There you go again, by way of suggesting that we've ever been to the
> surface of our moon in the first place, whereas you're suggesting that
> we keep on perpetrating cold-wars and thus creating 911's if not
> WW-III, and having to accept all sorts of things that simply are not
> true.
>
> Going to the surface of the moon isn't worth 0.0001% of whomever
> manages to first establish the LL1/ME-L1 sweet-spot on behalf of their
> creating and sustaining the one and only LSE-CM/ISS. Obviously you
> haven't gotten this punch-line because your dumbfounded head remains
> firmly stuck way too deep into whatever's the nearest space-toilet that
> supports your pagan NASA. That's a good million to one greater worth in
> establishing the LSE-CM/ISS than for all the worth of folks walking on
> the moon.
>
> With regard to our moving forward, and to things getting smaller
> becoming better. Here's my recent reply to what was offered by
> "tinplated", as a good faith gesture on his part of merely taking my
> word that we'd been summarily snookered by those having "the right
> stuff" from the very get-go. After all folks, our perpetrated cold-war
> with the USSR was 90% smoke and mirrors all along.
> >tinplated; - Ok. You've convinced me. Now...
> >What next?
> >Is there any, _ANY_ plan for the next step? Do you intend to *do*
> >anything other than posting angry screed to Usenet? So you have the
> >truth, as you say in your signature. What do you want to do with this
> >truth that you have?
> >Now what?
> The "next step" is for others to stop wasting time, talents and
> resources on pretending that we've been there and done that moon
> walking thing. Getting ourselves past all of that pretentious cold-war
> gauntlet should allow folks to focus upon delivering a slew of smaller
> satellites, and the likes of getting those LUNAR-A impact probes
> deployed.
>
> Of course, this would also represent that whenever ideas as to
> alternative methods of accomplishing our moon or whatever else becomes
> posted, that as such they're given the royal treatment of positive
> respect as shared along with all the think-tank talent and expertise
> instead of being summarily bashed because they're a little outside the
> NASA/Apollo box.
>
> For example; - Deploying a serious batch of microsatellites should soon
> become the relatively cheap and fast-track deployment alternative to
> the otherwise typically big and complex multi-tonne sorts of satellites
> that could never get safely onto the lunar deck, whereas getting
> smaller is potentially what's capable of affording these much lower
> density items into surviving after their orbit decay which leaves us
> with but one final alternative, of our actually getting a few of these
> interactive instruments deployed into if not situated upon the dark and
> nasty surface of such a moon-dust covered terrain.
>
> I'm thinking along the lines of creating 100 units of a 618 mm thick
> and 2 meter diameter saucer shaped microsatellite of perhaps an
> elliptosphere or that of an elliptoid flying saucer, as per each having
> a cubic meter in volume, of their shape based upon a ratio of 2 Phi
> (3.236068:1), thus lots of interior space for the sorts of tough basalt
> micro balloon packing and composite reinforcements that shouldn't
> hardly weigh anything. Perhaps as little as 309 mm by one meter
> diameter might get interesting.
>
> There are countless expansive lunar terrain areas and even of
> sufficiently large diameter craters hosting miles upon miles of their
> relatively smooth moon-dust filled ponds that'll make for a little
> interesting micro-lithobreaking form of a final moon-dust landing. I'll
> suggest a 10 kg satellite that's taking up a cubic meter by volume just
> might represent a surface tension compression factor of less than 0.325
> g/cm2, thus actually end up floating itself on top of that nasty
> moon-dust. I can think of all sorts of drag inducing methods of getting
> such low density items down to a reasonable final landing velocity
> that's sufficient as to surviving their arrivals upon such a low
> surface-tension capable substance. These days, of satellites that could
> become their own surface probes need not be large and bulky items,
> whereas 10 kg is actually affording quite a bit of a viable satellite
> package that's capable of obtaining a good deal of science and even
> multiple camera instruments within.
>
> Until we have achieved a proven set of fly-by-rocket landers (robotic
> as well as manned) under our moonsuit belts, whereas even the notions
> of an earthshine illuminated landing site is going to remain testy if
> not physically taboo. Therefore, the only manned applications I foresee
> are those related to our accomplishing a little preliminary
> station-keeping and thus all around ***-saving mission critical
> location claiming at LL1/ME-L1 (that's supposedly a sweet-spot 60,000
> km above the lunar deck, as per that zone remaining gravity-well
> aligned as keeping relatively in dead-center alignment with Earth, +/-
> a certain amount of the interactive gravity-well halo/parallel parking
> factor).
>
> So, I believe there's a lot to do and a great deal at stake for
> whomever gets to hold onto this one and only LL1/ME-L1 worthy zone,
> especially since there can be only one such LSE-CM/ISS. If that's not
> good enough, in which case I have lots of other affordable and
> obtainable plans of action that are absolute win-win opportunities for
> our futures.
> -
> Brad Guth



Dear Brad:

You are right about those cloned types! My computer crashed big time.
I no longer have outlook express messaging capability though I can
still be reached at: jlavine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

I never had a chance to respond to your email on the pictures. Please
resend that email. It was lost in the disaster. It will now go to a
different mailing server.

Somebody is 'hot' about the Mars pictures. Wonder who?


tomcat

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