Re: multiple regression (intercept)
- From: "Anon." <bob.ohara@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:14:09 +0300
illywhacker wrote:
I interpreted the OP's question as one where he had noticed something that seemed silly, but there was nothing in his comments to suggest that his data was anywhere near this region of the parameter space. If it's nowhere near, and the linear model seems to fit OK, then I would suggest not worrying about it. OTOH, if the linear model doesn't fit OK, or if the OP is intending to use the model near to the origin, then yes, he should improve the model. One problem is that if there's no data near the origin, then it's difficult to see how to select a better model: there's no information in the data in that part of the parameter space.Hi Anon.
"Anon." <bob.ohara@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a ,crit dans le message de news: 42D629FE.9030201@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
illywhacker wrote:
"thierry" <colorado@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news: kAiBe.9900$qg1.786183@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I ask this question because I have a negative intercept in my equation (Y = -2000 + 544*var1 + 1166*var2 - 487*var3), in my case intercept doesn't mean anything.
Either way, if you know these things, you must impose the constraint, otherwise you will end up with nonsense.
I think you're being excessive here: you can get nonsense if you impose a constraint too.
One can fit a model without an intercept, but this is usually advised against. The model assumes that the response varies linearly with the covariates. This is probably not precisely true, but may well be good enough over the range of the data. (as an aside: this should be checked, e.g. by plotting the residuals against the covariates) If there is non-linearity outside the range of the data, it won't be picked up in the analysis. If you force the fit through the intercept, you can get a very misleading model, that is wrong everywhere, rather than just at one point.
Well, the model with intercept is not just wrong at one point, but over a range of values where the behaviour is nonlinear. In this case, it seems that the OP is rather concerned with the region near the origin where the behaviour may be nonlinear, in which case the linear model with intercept is not of much use. Neither of course will the linear model without intercept be of much use if it does not correspond well with the behaviour. The solution is to use a better model, or several models, and to make model choices.
Bob
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