Re: Statistical Conventions in Social Science papers?


David Winsemius wrote:
"Reef Fish" <large_nassua_grouper@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:1167337286.578317.202960@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

There are many in THIS group, from
Portuguese to American posters who do not know the meaning
of p-values. The lean on computer manuals that make errors
and assume that a "canned program sold for money" must be
correct, or something to that fallacious effect.


There are many in this group who disagree with Reef Fish's posting from
September. Every textbook consulted disagreed.

Misrepresentation and BOLD FACE LIE. Deja vu. That's why David
Winsemius has earned his Disqualification Status in view of

o Your FREE lesson days are over.

o Your HISTORY of past behavior of frequent frivolus nitpick
disqualified you from a reply from Reef Fish Bob



Here's a HINT for the other readers why what's copied is NOT
the definition NOR the standard application of a "p-value of a test"!

One person cited SPSS, I cited a function in R (not sold for money). I
also cited textbooks:
copying from
<news:Xns9832DF4EC07dwtttttt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

--------definitons from math stats texts------------
Cox and Hinkley says a "level of significance" p_obs is defined as:
p_obs= Pr(T >= t_obs;H0)

Where is the Alternative Hypothesis? Not the p-VALUE of a test!!!


Kalbfleisch uses significance level as
SL == Pr(D>= D_obs|H0)

DeGroot defined p-value is sup(Pr(T >= t|theta))

Not the p-VALUE either. Where is the Alternative Hypothesis?

-- Reef Fish Bob.

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