Re: Statistical Conventions in Social Science papers?




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David Winsemius wrote:
"Reef Fish" <large_nassua_grouper@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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There are many in THIS group, from
Portuguese to American posters who do not know the meaning
of p-values. The lean on computer manuals that make errors
and assume that a "canned program sold for money" must be
correct, or something to that fallacious effect.


There are many in this group who disagree with Reef Fish's posting from
September. Every textbook consulted disagreed.
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First of all I will get chewed out for entering this discussion.

I agree with Bob on his interpretation.

Every testbook you consulted is as Bob said made an error of ommission.

The cemtral issue is properly defining the complete domain of test results.
Just making a statement only about the hypothesis defines only a part of
this domain. The reader then has to assume what is the rest of the domain
envisioned by the proposer.

Most textbooks assume that the reader knows what the domain is, so just
giving H0 they assume that the reader knows what Ha is. Bob has however
pointed out in other messages, that this is not necessarily true. To argue
why textbooks do this is beyond this sequence.

DAH
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Not the p-VALUE either. Where is the Alternative Hypothesis?

-- Reef Fish Bob.



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