Re: DO NOT BELIEVE IN WHAT Jack Tomsky say



For several years now, I've been trying to explain to Afonso the basics of hypothesis testing, but nothing seems to penetrate. I've concluded that nothing will ever penetrate until he takes a class in Statistics 101.

Jack (moderator)


DO NOT BELIEVE IN WHAT Jack Tomsky say
From the WEB
__1__"Accepting the null hypothesis" is like
acquitting a defendant. It does NOT prove that the
null hypothesis is true, or that the defendant is
innocent. It means there is a reasonable doubt about
the defendant's guilt. In statistical testing, the
significance level, Type I risk, or alpha risk is the
"reasonable doubt." It is the chance of wrongly
rejecting the null hypothesis when it is true. In
acceptance sampling, it is the producer's risk, or
risk of wrongly rejecting a lot that meets
requirements.
*****************************
And
__2__

HyperStat Online Contents
Why the Null Hypothesis is Not Accepted

A null hypothesis is not accepted just because it is
not rejected. Data not sufficient to show
convincingly that a difference between means is not
zero do not prove that the difference is zero. Such
data may even suggest that the null hypothesis is
false but not be strong enough to make a convincing
case that the null hypothesis is false. For example,
if the probability value were 0.15, then one would
not be ready to present one's case that the null
hypothesis is false to the (properly) skeptical
scientific community. More convincing data would be
needed to do that. However, there would be no basis
to conclude that the null hypothesis is true. It may
or may not be true, there just is not strong enough
evidence to reject it. Not even in cases where there
is no evidence that the null hypothesis is false is
it valid to conclude the null hypothesis is true. If
the null hypothesis is that µ1 - µ2 is zero then the
hypothesis is that the difference is exactly zero. No
experiment can distinguish between the case of no
difference between means and an extremely small
difference between means. If data are consistent with
the null hypothesis, they are also consistent with
other similar hypotheses.

********************************

Luis Amaral Afonso [The moderator ??? destroyer]
.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: DO NOT BELIEVE IN WHAT Jack Tomsky say
    ... nothing will ever penetrate until he takes a class in Statistics 101. ... significance level, Type I risk, or alpha risk is the ... zero do not prove that the difference is zero. ...
    (sci.stat.math)
  • Re: DO NOT BELIEVE IN WHAT Jack Tomsky say
    ... nothing will ever penetrate until he takes a class in Statistics 101. ... significance level, Type I risk, or alpha risk is the ... zero do not prove that the difference is zero. ...
    (sci.stat.math)
  • Re: Scientific Study of Nitrox and Air use
    ... I think the better question is whether 0.04% is really zero. ... We currently can't lower the risk below 0.04%. ... an acceptably "small" risk in diving. ... alcohol, it is possible to consume some small amount and have a blood ...
    (rec.scuba)
  • Re: F-test & F-Stat
    ... or that the defendant is ... significance level, Type I risk, or alpha risk is the ... zero do not prove that the difference is zero. ... Luis Amaral Afonso [The moderator ??? ...
    (sci.stat.math)