Re: DO NOT BELIEVE IN WHAT Jack Tomsky say
- From: James216440@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
On 17 Jul, 06:27, Old Mac User <chendrixst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 15, 1:24 pm, Jack Tomsky <jtom...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
For several years now, I've been trying to explain to Afonso the basics of hypothesis testing, but nothing seems to penetrate. I've concluded that nothing will ever penetrate until he takes a class in Statistics 101.
Jack (moderator)
Jack...
He's a lost cause. I, like you, don't give up easily. But this one
probably
would not profit from taking a real course in statistics anyhow. His
mindset
is frozen. Short of an intense emotional experience, he will not
change.
"People do not learn from experience.
They lean from BAD experience".
OMU
OMU is correct. I used to run a mid sized business. In the month
before I retired I was bored and could not start new projects as I was
not going to be there to finish them. So I spent a bit of time
thinking about problem employees I had that had reported to me over
the years. I had roughly 200 people that had reported to me at some
point. Almost all college grads. Of those 200 there were roughly 5%
that were standout problems of major proportions. Of those 5% several
were diagnosed as mentally ill at some point either when they were
reporting to me or after they were no longer reporting to me and were
at some other company. All of the rest of the problems looked to me
in retrospect that they had the same types of symptoms and it was
likely that mental health issues were at the base of their performance
problems.
Some of those problem people had in the past been outstanding
performers both on the job and in school. Yet by the time I got them
they were disfunctional. A couple were members of Mensa so native
intellegence is no measure of success.
It is plain that adumbo is delusional. Talking sense to him is not
going to change his behavior. The voices in his head tell him he is
just fine and it the rest of the world that is nuts. If he follows
the usual path he will only get worse. These people quite often do
not have jobs or if they do have jobs they are janitors or some such.
Today some of them buy a puter and find some niche where they can
spout their nonsense. Usenet is full of examples. Most every usenet
group seems to have one or two such residents.
These peoples egos feed on being able to suck smart people into
arguments just like adumbo does. And they will ignore legitimate
questions about holes in their whacko ideas and just keep arguing as
it further feeds their ego. The only way to get rid of them never
works on usenet. The way to get rid of them is to have no one respond
to anything they post ever. If this happens they no longer have the
ego feedback after a while and go away. It can take months and they
are never ignored this long on an unmoderated group.
Adumbo was probably very, very bright at an earlier time. His
teachers all told him he had a bright future and it did not happen.
The chance of him ever solving his problems are next to nothing. Go
read the book about the mathematician Nash for a great example of
mental illness destroying a brilliant mind. In the Nash case it is
probable that the early stages of his mental illness was also the
factor that allowed him to make his brilliant discoveries. Then as it
progressed he became non functional. His behavior in lots of respects
is much like adumbos behavior. Spend a bit of time prowling usenet
and you will find tons of them out there. Great places to start the
prowl would be sci.med.cardiology or sci.physics or alt.running.
.
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