Re: General comment

GTO

Again, please stop replying to my posts. This is really a one and only
newsgroup - which I appreciate - and I would hate to spoil it by getting
angry repeatedly.

If you want the last word, I promise to not reply to your next post.

Nick




"GTO" <gregor_o@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:oV5gf.21906$tV6.8800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> nickmirro:
>
> I am terribly sorry but I will not get brushed aside by you who seems to
> refuse to do your homework before you start posting in this group. - Wake
> up, read books and get realistic with your requirements at your 1,800
> budget. Remember, microscopy is not just an attachment to a hobby
> photographer's equipment!
>
> But of course, you do not know where to get free information about what
> you
> are looking for. Right? My mistake. So, read some of theses pages first
> http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/index.html
>
> BTW, welcome to this newsgroup where everybody has a voice! It is up to
> every individual to decide when one wants to stop participating in a
> thread.
> Statements like " I would ask that you do not reply to my posts anymore"
> and
> then start writing tons of silly statements isn't going to sound
> convincing.
> Don't you think so?
>
> Please feel free to continue this discussion ;-)
>
> Gregor
>
> PS: Do you also have a real e-mail address?
>
>
> "Nick" <nickmirro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ToOdnTTeVJ1XLh3enZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> GTO,
>>
>> I would ask that you do not reply to my posts anymore.
>>
>>
>> FIRST: You come across as very bright but for some reason are not
>> getting
>> the jist of any of my posts.
>>
>> (What I was hoping for)
>>
>> Feedback and friendly comments (+ or -) regarding the inexpensive units
>> that
>> I posted.
>>
>> (What you posted)
>>
>> 1. A response that wrongly suggests and focuses on the idea that - I am
>> under the impression - I can get a complete Nikon setup for $1800. My
>> estimation is that you are in the business of bashing and have found this
>> specific issue a potential vulnerability.
>>
>> 2. Suggestion that I am not considering macro photography as an
>> alternate.
>> Currently, I use Canon L lenses and have a variety of extension tubes,
>> teleconverters and multielement diopters. This macro photography setup,
>> which is its primary use, cost over 10k. I am quite experienced in this
>> area and cannot see it as a cost effective or practical alternative. It
>> is
>> not a good platform to observe from and isn't a less expensive way to get
>> high quality optics.
>>
>>
>> SECOND: I find that your comments are condescending:
>>
>> "get realistic"
>>
>> "Most stereozooms are designed for an observer using both eyes and not
>> for a
>> camera stuck onto one
>> eyepiece only."
>>
>>
>> Regarding your follow-up post, I admit that I posted a similar question
>> on
>> the Yahoo hobby group. You caught me. I've learned my lesson. If it
>> doesn't go through you, it is of limited or questionable value.
>>
>> Please just ignore me if I post anything. Thank you.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> "GTO" <gregor_o@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:XtUff.23153$dO2.5423@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> That's the wrong question. The SMZ-1000 is a stereoscopic zoom
>>> microscope
>>> that is part of an entire system. Like the SMZ-800, it consists of a
>>> zooming body (from US pricelist 2002, just the SMZ-800 zooming body was
>>> $1,314) and your choice of oculars, illuminators, stand, viewing body
>>> and,
>>> last but not least, objective. You can put a combination together that
>>> costs more than 10k or less. But for $1,800 you will not even come close
>>> to the new price of this scope. Get realistic. If you want to use an SLR
>>> to do some photomacrography, get a decent macro lens with focusing rail.
>>> If you need more magnification, buy a second hand scope on eBay (e.g. a
>>> good old B&L) and live with its limitations. It will do ok. The SMZ-1000
>>> is an expensive scope for professionals working for the industry (deep
>>> pockets!). You may get a good one used. But I doubt that you get it for
>>> less than 5k if it's a working system.
>>>
>>> Gregor
>>>
>>> "Nick" <nickmirro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:yfidnXsuxc0Jlx3eRVn-tA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Well this is eye opening. $15k? Well actually thats depressing.
>>>> Maybe
>>>> I should clarify that I could do without the imaging ability initially.
>>>> It just needs to be an upgrade possibility. I am now also will to fork
>>>> over up to $2500 and take something used. Here are some inexpensive
>>>> zooms that I found tonight but I am unsure as to quality and
>>>> usefulness.
>>>> Any comments?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wild M5A Stereo
>>>> http://www.sherwooddallas.com/usedmicroscopes.html
>>>>
>>>> Meiji EMZ-5TR
>>>> http://www.professionalmicroscopes.com/EM_series_Meiji.html
>>>>
>>>> Carton NSZT-70SBF-SL
>>>> http://www.optekusa.com/nsz70family.htm
>>>>
>>>> Olympus SZ III-TR Trinocular
>>>> http://www.mcbinst.com/A_Stereomicroscopes.htm
>>>>
>>>> ULTIMATE (brand?) 3.35X-90X ZOOM
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTIMATE-3-35X-90X-ZOOM-MICROSCOPE-W-USB-PC-CAMERA_W0QQitemZ7555582727QQcategoryZ48740QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>> Just to satisfy my curiosity, does anyone know what a Nikon SMZ 1000
>>>> lists for?
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary G" <see.signature@bottom> wrote in message
>>>> news:8jrvn190a848iqo4pii5q1cg9jlvbmti3a@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:11:34 -0600, "Nick" <nickmirro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Its really, really hard for a beginner to pick out a new scope when
>>>>>>resellers and manufacturers don't publish sale or list prices. I am
>>>>>>completely confused and have a very poor idea of what I can afford.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I see one more Labx link on Google, I think I'm going to break
>>>>>>omething ]: - (
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok. So what do you want to see? Factual responses are true, but
>>>>> unfortunatly depressing. Been there done that and have done that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically, I see your post as seeking a $15K system for $1800. This
>>>>> is not going to happen. This is not certainly your fault. The scope
>>>>> field is wide and has many nuances. More info on what you seek to do
>>>>> would help us help you. If you want low quality, it will be low cost.
>>>>> If you want high quality it will cost more. So you need to balance
>>>>> your requirements for image results and overall quality versus cost.
>>>>> And the camera factor is a wild card. Personally, I do not think that
>>>>> an SLR is suited to a microscope system. But of course, others may
>>>>> disagree.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
>>>>> Microtechnics, Inc.
>>>>> Granite Bay, CA 95746
>>>>> 916.791.8191
>>>>> gary@microtechnics dot com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


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